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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry unviewed
« on: Tuesday 26 March 24 10:10 GMT (UK)  »
No issue with ours.

Pages and pages of pretty useless DNA matches, ie vague names, no trees, if there are trees they are unlinked, I got to Page 5 before there was a match with a tree of over 1000.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Upcoming changes to tools at AncestryDNA
« on: Tuesday 26 March 24 06:57 GMT (UK)  »
Ancestry Pro Tools requires an active Ancestry family history membership. Pro Tools provides access to advanced family history tools, including:

Tree Checker: Find potential duplicates and possible errors in your tree.
Charts and Reports: Create and share detailed family histories.
Advanced Filters: Search, group, and sort people in your tree using key details beyond names.
Map Views: See where people in your tree lived in relation to one another.

Access to paid records, other members’ family trees, and premium DNA features are not included.
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For me the above is not worth it, my genealogy family tree software does this. 

It is the Gedmatch DNA tools that Ancestry needs and vastly better search filtering tools.

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Going through paper electoral rolls is looking for a needle in a haystack.

I spent all afternoon a few years ago looking through the ER’s for one village, there were two printed and bound volumes to work through.

Unless you know where the beneficiary went to live you could be in the British Library for the rest of your life.

If you have an idea of their age try looking on Social Media platforms as well as all the other suggestions.


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: No DNA match, mother to gr grandmother
« on: Sunday 24 March 24 11:09 GMT (UK)  »
I too have my data on Gedmatch but a success rate of more or less zero.

None of the matches I have are of any substantive help with the area I am interested in, no message response, no trees etc so it is just a waiting game with fingers crossed for a match of interest.

As it is my highest match on Gedmatch (75cM) was already in my Ancestry tree and in that they have been useful by ‘Reverse Engineering’ comparisons I can see which parental side some of them are.


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Shared 18% DNA
« on: Sunday 24 March 24 08:38 GMT (UK)  »
Do you have any siblings?

If you do then they need to take a DNA test.

You may have an NPE and the first thing to do is to validate the near relationships that you have, ie your sibling is a full Brother/Sister and not a half sibling.

If this is not possible then if I was in your position I would make what may be for you is a startling assumption, that my Father is not my Biological Father and then proceed on that assumption until proven otherwise.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: No DNA match, mother to gr grandmother
« on: Sunday 24 March 24 08:22 GMT (UK)  »
Lisa

At the generational level between your Mum and Esther there is a low probability that DNA shared with Jane and Esther by their parents will not have been inherited but it is still possible that it has not.  So one cannot be confident in this aspect.

About six generations is a limit for reliable DNA inheritance although the further one goes back the probability of finding a match drops off a cliff.

If your Mum does not have her DNA posted on other sites then I suggest you arrange for that to happen, Gedmatch, MyHeritage, ftDNA etc all these will give the chance of additional matches being found.  Gedmatch has the most tools available but there is a steep learning process to fully use, understand and to interpret the results.

You can also use the Chromosome Tools available to map out which DNA segments have been inherited from each of her Grandparents and then expand upon that with the DNA matches who share segments with the Grandparental line in question. 

Initially take a look at My Heritage’s DNA cluster mapping, it is like the Leeds Method (which in itself is a useful process to try) and the cluster can help identify matches within each of the clusters then you can move on the other tools.  There may well be a small fee involved in unlocking elements of My Heritage’s features.

In the USA Ancestry has Pro Tools available which may be useful for you to subscribe to and learn more about it, we do not yet have access to it here in the UK.

It may well be that Esther’s descendants simply have not had their DNA tested or if they have they may well have used another company to test with and as I have written, spreading your Mum’s results may help.

Do keep in mind that Jane and Esther also may not have been full siblings so keeps options open.

Good luck

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Shared 18% DNA
« on: Saturday 23 March 24 20:31 GMT (UK)  »
I've actually done the DNA through Ancestry, the person who shares 18% DNA
And 1229cM the one that's shares 11%DNA is 763cM. The person who shares 7% DNA is my 1st cousins daughter so she's my 2nd cousin. There was a guy who shared 8% DNA 543cM I contacted him we have a name in common his grandmother and my 2nd great grandmother share the same name he hasn't replied to my email since, he actually has a few shared matches and its the ones at 18% and 11% so fingers crossed he gets back to me

Tracey

Your First Cousin’s child is not your Second Cousin, they are your First Cousin Once Removed.

Second Cousin’s share Great Grandparents as their MRCA.

The child you state is a Second Cousin is a Second Cousin with your own Child

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Technical Help / Re: PDF images from GRO
« on: Friday 22 March 24 15:23 GMT (UK)  »
Use a different Browser.

I never use Chrome, always Safari or Firefox and not had any issues with either.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Shared 18% DNA
« on: Friday 22 March 24 15:06 GMT (UK)  »
18% is about 1224cM which is a close relationship.

With you using percentage that indicates to me that you took a DNA test with My Heritage, please confirm if this is the case?

Without doubt the best company to take a DNA test with is Ancestry, they have a vastly greater database of people who have been tested.  Also a copy of the DNA data can be downloaded from Ancestry and uploaded to My Heritage, ftDNA and Gedcom thus increasing the number of DNA matches.

Now given the close relationship you have I am going to suggest a DNA strategy.

If you have Siblings then get them to take a DNA test.

As you have no known Paternal First Cousins you have no one whose DNA can be used to cross reference.

If you are aware of a Paternal Second Cousin then they to can take a DNA test.

This will maximise the chances of determining relationships.

Meanwhile printout a 5 generation pedigree family tree and with each DNA match that you link to and include in your tree you then mark them on your printed family tree at the MRCA you share with said match.

Once you have added a few DNA matches to the printout it will become clear where there are xGrandparents where there are no DNA shared matches.  Why I am stressing the importance of a chart is to validate that you have proven DNA matches in your tree that link to each line of your Grandparents and to each line of your Great Grandparents.  If you have none then there is an NPE in your tree, if you have these proven matches linked to MPCA’s then your Father may have Fathered a child by another woman, or Grandfather may have, or Grandparents may have given up a child for unofficial adoption.  There are a lot of permutations possible, so do be aware of them.

In a family tree there can be an NPE event, ie “not the parent expected” or Non-Parental Event” despite there being paper evidence it can be totally wrong and an unofficial adoption may have taken place.

Be prepared.


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