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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Surname Phillips-Williams
« on: Thursday 18 July 24 07:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone who has taken an interest in my query on this post. When Ronald Torr (and his twin  brother Kenneth Torr) were adopted, their surname became Phillips-Williams. I was wanting to know where the surname Phillips-Williams came from. With a lot of help from this group, I've been able to trace the surname to the boy's paternal auntie and her second husband who were the ones who adopted both boys. I have also now made contact with the twin brother's daughter - and she has been a wealth of information.

Just wanted to say thankyou :-)

The Common Room / Re: Chargeable to the common fund
« on: Tuesday 11 June 24 08:33 BST (UK)  »
Specifically, the Common Fund was the poor-law union's central pot of money, out of which poor relief was paid to those whose welfare could not be allocated to an individual parish in the union. Every parish in a poor-law union would contribute a sum to the Common Fund for such purposes.

Thank you Bookbox. It helps add clarity :-)

The Common Room / Re: Chargeable to the common fund
« on: Tuesday 11 June 24 07:50 BST (UK)  »
It means that the Derby Poor Law Union was paying for his father's upkeep.
While the son was paying nothing.
Ah! Thank you KGarrad.

The Common Room / Chargeable to the common fund
« on: Tuesday 11 June 24 07:42 BST (UK)  »
Just reading through a newspaper article about one of our ancestors. He was summoned to “show cause why he should not contribute to the maintenance of his father, who is chargeable to the common fund of the Derby Union”. What does it mean to be "Chargeable to the common fund"?

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Trying to decipher handwriting
« on: Tuesday 11 June 24 07:17 BST (UK)  »
Ah! Thank you to both of you. Great team work. It makes perfect sense :-)

Family History Beginners Board / Trying to decipher handwriting
« on: Monday 10 June 24 09:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi Geneaology Sleuths.
I am trying to figure out the occupation of one of my hubby's ancestors - as stated on the 1891 England census. In 1891 he is 15 years old and his occupation is listed as what looks like a "Mit Frazer" - see attachment. Anyone any idea what one of these is, or could be referring to. If it's of any help, ten years later in the 1901 census, he is an iron moulder. All this time he is located in Derbyshire. Any suggestions welcome! :-)

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Arthur Terry and Alice Haymon
« on: Thursday 30 May 24 22:03 BST (UK)  »
Here's another article which might be useful to narrow down their location in the 1911 census.  It relates to Arthur Ernest TERRY, Bricklayer of Drummond Road Croydon/

Croydon Times - Saturday 13 April 1912
Thank you. Good find.  :)

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Arthur Terry and Alice Haymon
« on: Thursday 30 May 24 10:23 BST (UK)  »
Good plan!

Not sure if this will help with the enumeration district.... look at it tomorrow!

Edit: ignore the above, it doesn't really help.
Without using a person's name, just enter 1939 and Croydon for Any Event, hit exact for both, and put Tamworth Road in the keyword box, and hit exact.  It brings up the folks there. The enumeration district codes only show on the actual image.  Doing this shows Tamworth Road being over 2 districts:

Start of Tamworth Road
Croydon Cb

The rest of Tamworth Road
Croydon Cb

Wonderful! Thank you :-)
I have found many news articles for Ronald now. No 11 and 21 census records but plenty of news artciles! He certainly did lead a life of crime.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Arthur Terry and Alice Haymon
« on: Wednesday 29 May 24 10:59 BST (UK)  »

Regarding the half brother Stanley Kenneth. I'm not sure I'm fully understanding you. Whose mother are you referring to?  Arthur Ernest James Terry's mother died in 1938 (I've just updated that info on Ancestry).

Stanley's mother's maiden name is Smithers, the second wife of James Terry, father to the Arthur Ernest Terry that married Alice Haymon.  (That makes it sound more confusing!)

Deaths Mar 1909
TERRY    Alice Frances    44    Ticehurst    2b    97

GRO Reference: 1909  M Quarter in TICEHURST  Volume 02B  Page 87

Ah! Gotcha I think  ;D. It’s time for bed here in New Zealand, will continue with this tomorrow.  ;)

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