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I'm looking for information regarding the following person:

Edith HOLMES - who claims to be 21 when she married iin April 1919 - Therefore birth year about 1897 or 1898.

I have a copy of her marriage certificate:

 - groom was Charles Ernest TWIGG - age: 21 - Motor Engineer - living in Bakewell Road, Matlock son of Charles William Twigg - Butcher.

THe only details Edith gives is that she is 21 - a spinster - living at Smedley's Hydro, Matlock where she is a Hydro Waitress - no details of her father.   

Looking in the 1911 census the best match I can find is:

Edith Holmes - age: 13 - living as a Niece in the houshold of John Woodhouse in Matlock

at the same address are:

    John's wife: Edith
    John's Nephew: Herbert Holmes  (who I'm pretty certain is Agne's brother - see later)

(Ref: Class: RG14; Piece: 21206 - Household Schedule: 135)

The same household appears in the 1901 census - but Herbert & Edith have been given the name WOODHOUSE (via dittos) and they are Boarders rather than Nephew & Neice. 

(Ref: Class: RG13; Piece: 3266; Folio: 111; Page: 57)

On "familysearch" I can find a baptism entry for Herbert Holmes - the details are:

Birth: 14 November 1894
Date of Christening: 4 November 1896
Place: Primitive Methodist, Matlock Circuit, Derbyshire
Parents: Herbert & Agnes Holmes.

I can't find a baptism entry for Edith - so was wondering if somebody could look to see if there is an entry that has not been transcribed yet.

I  believe I have found the marriage of Herbert Holmes & Agnes - in Manchester dated: 1 Nov 1893 - where Agnes is listed as Sarah Agnes Woodhouse - daughter of Henry Woodhouse (Cab driver)   

I have the baptism of Sarah Agnes in Matlock - 28 Jul 1865 daughter of Henry & Hannah Woodhouse.   

In 1871 and 1881 census when Sarah Agnes is with her parents in these she is listed as Agnes.

In 1891 Census she is living as a servant and is using the name "Sarah Agnes".

John Woodhouse who Agnes & Herbert are with in 1901/1911 census is also the son of Henry & Hannah Woodhouse - which would make him the brother of Sarah Agnes and hence the children's uncle as per the 1911 census.

I don't appear to be able to find Herbert & (Sarah) Agnes Holmes in either 1901 or 1911 census. 

Initials thoughts were that both parents had died by the time of the 1901 census and the children were brought up by their Uncle & Aunt, and Edith being less than 3 at the time  never know her father so could not name him on her marriage certificate.

However Herbert appears to have died whilst fighiting in WWI - and in the "UK - Army Registers of Soldier's Effects" his Mother Agnes is listed as the reciepiant of the monies owed him, therefore she must have still be alive up to 11 Jan 1921.   

So couple of things I'm trying to establish:

Baptism of Edith Holmes - that gives her a birth year in the years 1897 or 1898.- Probably a methodist but not discounting anything.

Any suggestions on where to go to try and sort out  why the children appear to be living with an Uncle & Aunt in both 1901 and 1911 census.

Regards & Thanks in advance.

Kevin

I also have a person who is listed as a Posserman - but then helpfully says Flour Mill after the word, and somebody has then overwritten "Miller" on the census so I assume its a job within a Flour Mill. 

With regard to supplying more information - I've given all I have - other then somebody on the Picture Dating forum as much as possible confirmed what we suspected that is was taken in 1906. 

If it was 1906 I have the relevant Marriage certificate and have just checked and one of the witnesses was: John MacKenzie - which would sort of fit with the Scottish theme.

Guess I now need to find out whether there was a Colour Sargeant MacKenzie in the Seaforths in 1906.

Thanks for the help - In a way glad its got people thinking.

Can somebody please look at the attached photograph and give us a date - we believe it is post 1901 but before 1910.

We would also like an explanation on Wedding Photo Etiquette, for this time period,  in particular:

1. The placement of the Brides parents.
2.  The placement of the Groom's parents:
3.  Where would the Best man be?
4.  Would the brides maids sit in any particular order.

Hopefully the answer to these will help us sort out who's wedding it is.

My wife's grandparents are in the photo (sadly its not their marriage) instead her Grandmother is the bridesmaid nearest the groom and her Grandfather is the man standing behind her with the thing (assume its a hanky) sticking out his breast pocket. 

The military thread have already kindly identified the man in uniform as being in the Seaforth Highlanders - with the Queen Sudan & Khedives medal. Hence we know the earliest date of the photograph from when these medals were issued.

Can somebody also explain why the "yellow" would appear to be darker than the "blue" on the ribbon of the Khedives medal (which was a Yellow / Blue / Yellow ribbon)?

We would also be interesting to hear peoples opinions on how much a wedding turn out like this would have cost?