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World War Two / Help needed with interpreting British Army Service Record
« on: Monday 04 April 16 11:38 BST (UK)  »
I am researching the WWII service of my Uncle Edward Patrick Carthy and would appreciate help and further information regarding the following entries in his Army service record:-

23 24 25 Lab. Co. RASC Strensall (Pte.) 5/9/39
Posted to No.23 Depot Lab.Co. York (Promoted Cpl.) 7/9/39
Attached No.2 Centre AMPC Caistor 27/10/39

I have found the following info on the web that may be relevant....
In September 1939, a number of infantry and cavalry reservists were formed into Works Labour Companies. These, in October 1939 became the Auxiliary Military Pioneer Corps (AMPC), and a Labour Directorate was created to control labour matters. On 22 November 1940 the name was changed from the AMPC to the Pioneer Corps.

Posted 2/4 Btn. KOYLI (Cpl.) 13/3/40 
Posted 50th. H.B. (Cpl.) 13/7/40
Does the above line refer to the 50th (Holding Btn). East Yorkshire Regiment?  Shortly afterwards he was posted to 1/4 Btn. KOYLI with whom he served for the remainder of the war, rising to the rank of CSM.

Many thanks!

 

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Armed Forces / Re: Has anyone else recently requested British Service Records from MOD?
« on: Monday 14 March 16 10:27 GMT (UK)  »
As the original instigator of this thread, all respondents will be interested to hear that my cousin has just received the army records she requested - only took 3 weeks after all!

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Armed Forces / Re: Has anyone else recently requested British Service Records from MOD?
« on: Monday 29 February 16 09:42 GMT (UK)  »
Very many thanks to all of you who have responded to my enquiry.  The information you have given me is ressuring that my cousin may not have to wait too long, especially as she was able to provide lots of information about him including his service number.  Your help is much appreciated!

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Armed Forces / Has anyone else recently requested British Service Records from MOD?
« on: Sunday 28 February 16 15:08 GMT (UK)  »
My cousin has recently submitted completed forms to MOD for her father's army service record. She has received the following reply...'Unfortunately, due to the very high volume of urgent welfare requests on behalf of former soldiers, family interest enquiries are currently taking longer than we would like to complete.  Please accept my apologies for the delay and I will write to you in due course. However, if under the circumstances, you would like to cancel your request then please write to me and I will arrange to refund your payment. Your patience is appreciated'.

Has anyone else had this response or know how long the wait is likely to be? The comment about cancelling the request sounds like there may be a long wait!  Even before this, she was expecting the normal waiting time of a few months.

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Armed Forces / Re: British Army - enlistment duration between the wars
« on: Sunday 03 January 16 16:14 GMT (UK)  »
Ken - Actually on checking the news cutting it describes my uncle (Edward Patrick Carthy) as an 'iron moulder' not a blacksmith!  The earliest date I have of him in civvy street is getting married in May 1935 lving in Skipton in Craven and described as a 'blacksmith's striker'.  His DoB was 29/10/1906 at Chiswick, London.  He left home shortly after his mother died in 1918 and worked as a farm hand in Yorkshire before joining up.  Probably served for 12 years sometime between the years 1920 - 1935, which included 7 years in India.  His daughter in Australia has his North West Frontier Medal 1930-31 and India General Service Medal, in addition to WW2 medals. She is applying for his Service Record, so I can write a full and detailed 'profile' about his service career.  Really appreciate your help.

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Armed Forces / Re: British Army - enlistment duration between the wars
« on: Sunday 03 January 16 12:08 GMT (UK)  »
Ken - After enlistment at a young age, I am assuming that he served for 12 years, that included 7 years in India. I agree that he may have been promoted to CSM after re-enlistment at the outbreak of war. Why Corporal and not Sergeant? I appreciate your expert help.

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Armed Forces / Re: British Army - enlistment duration between the wars
« on: Saturday 02 January 16 10:44 GMT (UK)  »
maxD - thanks for your advice about researching the KOYLIs history.  Yes i will probably visit the Museum once I get his service history.  Agree he was probably part of the 1st Battalion in France. I have photos of him with KOYLIs in Iceland in 1940, so almost certainly joined 1/4th Battalion after recuperating from the shrapnel foot injury.  Thanks again!

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Armed Forces / Re: British Army - enlistment duration between the wars
« on: Saturday 02 January 16 09:40 GMT (UK)  »
Ken - that is really useful...many thanks! I am researching his service history and his daughter is getting his service record from MOD for me.  I have a news cutting about him recuperating from a shrapnel wound serving with the KOYLIs with BEF in France in 1940 with the rank of Company Sergeant Major.   It also says that he served in India for 7 years in the past.  I understand he worked as a blacksmith from at least 1935 until his re-enlistment. Did regular soldiers retain their rank as a First Class Reservist? If so, this would account for him taking on the rank of CSM so soon after re-enlistment.  I assume he got the two 'good service' badges. I am keen to source the best information about the history of the KOYLIs during his engagement with them if you can help. Thanks again - John.

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Armed Forces / British Army - enlistment duration between the wars
« on: Friday 01 January 16 17:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hello - hope someone can help. My uncle had left the King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry by 1935 to return to civvy street.  Born in 1906, I think he enlisted at a fairly young age in the early 1920s - what was the rules regarding enlistment duration between the wars and how old did you have to be? Many thanks!

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