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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Sunday 18 July 21 00:53 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks maddys52  and other members of Roots Chat for all your help in the search for the Pitt brothers, ttip and I are know to each other and have corresponded. I appreciate all your time and  help on both threads of this topic, we will forge on with our quest to discover these brothers Pitt before they came to Australia and hopefully one day something will appear for us. Roots Chat is indeed an amazing help. Cheers Kay

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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Saturday 17 July 21 00:37 BST (UK)  »
I did not know there was another thread regarding William and Thomas Pitt when I posted. The results are the same on both threads though with no sign of either brothers in Births or Census results in England. Cheers

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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Thursday 15 July 21 08:29 BST (UK)  »
‘William Pitt Senior’, in Companion to Theatre in Australia, Currency Press, 1995, one of the sources of the article.  One of the online references says the following "William Pitt  Painter and scene-painter, the son of a successful English scene painter, arrived at Port Melbourne on 27 January 1853 with his wife Jane as unassisted migrants. An experienced scene-painter from the London Lyceum Theatre, he was soon employed by the theatrical entrepreneur George Seth Coppin.Biographer: Maslen, Joan Source of info: The Dictionary of Australian Artists: painters, sketchers, photographers and engravers to 1870 Date written: Date: 1992"

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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Thursday 15 July 21 07:11 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks, will follow that Census lead and also the family connections of Thomas H Pitt to see what pops up. Cheers
Regarding the family of artists and sculptors - William Pitts, "the sculptor" of 5 Watkin's Terrace is recorded as having committed suicide in April 1840 (if you have access to the Gale database, you can find these records).  He took laudanum, and from the reports it sounds as if he was suffering from depression (verdict was "temporary insanity"). William was said to be around 60 years of age, and Thomas Pitts is mentioned as his eldest son.

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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Thursday 15 July 21 06:58 BST (UK)  »
I have found another topic on this forum named Help- Scenic Theatre Artists 1840's. They too were searching for Thomas Pitt, Artist.
There is a Thomas Pitt at the Adelphi from 1824-1858 however he is Thomas H Pitt. His death is recorded 18th Aug, 1873 Thomas H Pitt aged 70 yrs of 58 Westbourne Road North, Bamsbury. He worked at the Royal, Alelphi and Drury Lane. In 1871 Census he is at Westbourne Road, place of birth Croydon (confirmed by the 1861 census). Perhaps my Thomas Pitt changed his name to stop confusion. Or perhaps Pitt was not his name from the beginning. The theatre circuit included Birmingham and Sunderland so perhaps he met Jane Dixon during one of these circuits.

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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Wednesday 14 July 21 23:28 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks, will try Ireland and Scotland. William must have met his defacto wife Jane Dixon in Sunderland though, as she is shown there in the 1841 and 1851 census. Her husband Joseph Huggon abandoned her soon after their marriage in 1847 or perhaps she abandoned him?

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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Wednesday 14 July 21 06:26 BST (UK)  »
William Pitt is described as an Artist, aged 30 yrs England, his brother Thomas aged 32 yrs, no occupation and Williams defacto wife Mrs Jane 24 yrs, on the ship "Birman"' arriving 1853 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia from Glasgow, Scotland. No children with them. They were not married so no Marriage certificate details. They never married in Australia after they arrived despite having children here.

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England / Re: Help - Scenic/Theatre Artists in 1840's
« on: Wednesday 14 July 21 06:07 BST (UK)  »
Jo, I too am searching for William Pitt, Theatre Artist who came to Melbourne with his defacto wife Jane Dixon and brother Thomas in 1853. Did you ever have any luck discovering him in BMD or Census before he came to Melbourne?

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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Wednesday 14 July 21 04:44 BST (UK)  »
William Pitt was a well know theatre artist in Melbourne. He was well documented in Victoria, Australia as a publican and artist and owner of the Cafe de Paris. His origins in England are the mystery.

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