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Carmarthenshire / Re: John Rees, Margaret Rees (nee Samuel) and family in 1861!
« on: Saturday 16 January 21 16:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Roy

Many thanks for all the work you've done on this.  I'm going to be busy until the end of the month but look forward to digesting your posts.

Cheers

Cyfrifydd

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Carmarthenshire / Re: John Rees, Margaret Rees (nee Samuel) and family in 1861!
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 18:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Roy

I think that Mary married David Williams, but I can't now find my evidence for that statement.

Catherine married John Philpott in 1873.  In 1881 they were farming Coedcywbella, Llannon, a farm of 100 acres.  But by 1891 John was a farmer but they were living at the White Lion Felinfoel, and by 1901 he was the innkeeper.  He died in 1905, she in 1907.

Thee are several unfavourable mentions of John in the Llanelly Mercury in 1897, including that he was bankrupt.  In the London Gazette of December 1897 he is described as 'formerly a farmer and publican, and now a publican'.

So might most of the Rees family upped and awayed to run a colliery?

Cheers

Richard

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Carmarthenshire / Re: John Rees, Margaret Rees (nee Samuel) and family in 1861!
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 15:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Roy

My memory was right about Daniel being on the Sardine.  The reference is RG 9/4529, if you can access the 1861 census.

Cheers

Richard

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Carmarthenshire / Re: John Rees, Margaret Rees (nee Samuel) and family in 1861!
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 15:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Roy

Yes, I have the marriage certificate.

Adulam Chapel, in the district of Llanelly.  23rd May 1861 between Daniel Thomas, 27, bachelor, master mariner in the merchant service, Baily, Llanelly, and Elizabeth Rees, 22, spinster, Ystradfai, Llanelly.  Daniel's father was William Thomas, deceased, farmer, and Elizabeth's was John Rees, Colliery Proprietor.  Witnesses Cornelius Rees and David Thomas.

It's the 'colliery proprietor' that I find strange.  He was missing from the 1861 census - could the two things be connected?  He was a farmer before 1861 and a farmer in 1871.

Cheers

Richard

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Carmarthenshire / Re: John Rees, Margaret Rees (nee Samuel) and family in 1861!
« on: Monday 11 January 21 20:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Roy

I do have Elizabeth Rees's birth cert, and I'll send you some info tomorrow.

For Daniel Thomas in the 1861 census, search for him on a vessel called the 'Sardine' in Swansea docks. I'm speaking from memory as I'm not with my records.

Cheers

Richard

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Carmarthenshire / Re: John Rees, Margaret Rees (nee Samuel) and family in 1861!
« on: Monday 11 January 21 16:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Howard

Yes, according to my records Elizabeth (Rees) was born on 26th April 1839 (not 1840).  She married master mariner Daniel Thomas on 23rd May 1861 (I think it's the 23rd).  Her children were Elizabeth Margaret (3rd March 1866 to 2nd June 1897), Hannah Catherine (Kate) 14th September 1870 to 14th October 1948 and Cornelius Rees 7th February 1872 to 21st March 1940.

Hannah Catherine was my grandmother.  How are you connected to the family?

Cheers

Richard

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Carmarthenshire / Re: John Rees, Margaret Rees (nee Samuel) and family in 1861!
« on: Tuesday 01 December 20 16:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Roy

Haven't got much to report.

My records say that Adulam MIs show that Jonathon died 17th June 1869 at the age of 18.  He's buried with Henry, mate of the Betsy of Llanelly, who died on 17th December 1866 at the age of 21, and Captain David Rees, who died on 16th May 1866, aged 25.  I been to Adulam cemetery many times but don't think I have a photograph of the gravestone.

So Jonathon would just have missed the 1851 census.  I don't have facilities to search where 10 year old Jonathon might be in 1861, although I can see that FindMyPast has two suggestions within 50 miles of Llannon.

Otherwise, it's a mystery about where the whole family was in 1861.

Sorry I can't be more help.  Rees is an especially common surname in Carmarthenshire.

Cheers

Richard

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Carmarthenshire / Re: John Rees, Margaret Rees (nee Samuel) and family in 1861!
« on: Monday 30 November 20 17:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Roy

Busy at the moment, but I hope to reply in a couple of days.

Cheers

Richard

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Carmarthenshire / Re: John Rees, Margaret Rees (nee Samuel) and family in 1861!
« on: Thursday 26 November 20 12:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Roy

I too have searched for and failed to find the family in 1861.  John Rees was my great great grandfather, and his daughter Elizabeth was my great grandmother.  My suspicion is that the census records may have been lost, and the family remains resolutely untraceable.

John died on 11th June 1872.  I have this note in my records about about his demise; have you seen it:-

"The Cardigan Reporter and Advertiser for Pembrokeshire and South Wales, printed and published by Martha W Williams at her General Printers Office, Solva, printed this item in their edition of Saturday 15th June 1872:-
'Melancholy death.  Mr John Rees, farmer Ty'nyrheol, near Llanelly, left his daughter's house, the 'Farmer's Arms', on Tuesday night last for home, in a market cart. When the horse and vehicle arrived at Ty'nyrheol Mr Rees was found dead, with his head hanging between the side of the vehicle and the wheel.'"

His death certificate confirms this date and gives his age as 62.  An inquest was held on 13th June 1872 and was conducted by J Rowlands, coroner for Three Commotts.  He was buried in Adulam graveyard, together with his wife and three of his sons, David, Henry and Jonathon.  His age was given as 61 not 62 as in the coroner's report.

Cheers

Richard

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