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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Frances Gurney - b.1797 (prob.) St James's, Westminster
« on: Wednesday 29 April 20 10:53 BST (UK)  »
Spouse details correct, yes.  She lived in Staines at each cen., and stated Westminster (as d.o.b.) each time.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Frances Gurney - b.1797 (prob.) St James's, Westminster
« on: Tuesday 28 April 20 16:53 BST (UK)  »
Does anybody please share a birth record with my ancestors in Westminster.  I am looking for date of baptism and parentage of a FRANCES GURNEY or GUNNING born about 1797. She married an Edward Goldsmith there on 16 January 1825. 

  • her first child: Frances was baptised 1822 in St Margaret, Westminster.
  • Later children: Anne, Jane Sarah and Edward born in Staines.


All censuses prove shed lived much longer than her two husbands as died as Mrs. Frances Minton in 1875, buried in Staines (as married in Hanwell in 1836, as widowed with very young children).  Anglican as far as all baptisms, weddings and burials show.

Thanks

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London and Middlesex / Re: Frances/Fanny Goldsmith b. in London "1823"
« on: Wednesday 23 May 18 08:00 BST (UK)  »
Fine.  Pre 1911 ( esp.) 6-letter plus names may have been abbreviated and then mauled by current most popular usually free databases.  This is compounded by use of copperplate joined up superscript and other long-lost practices but Which are to scholars well known and quickly researchable

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London and Middlesex / Re: Frances/Fanny Goldsmith b. in London "1823"
« on: Tuesday 22 May 18 17:01 BST (UK)  »
True I am guessing whoever regularly transcribes that as Francis is pretty ignorant!

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London and Middlesex / Re: Frances/Fanny Goldsmith b. in London "1823"
« on: Tuesday 22 May 18 14:51 BST (UK)  »
 :o you have done well on the rest of her life and that I found yesterday rapidly on familysearch; given she had so many children who in turn averaged about 8 children (including mortalities) and into the next generations into the early 1900s and so on they have many hundreds of descendants.

The question I cannot find is now this new Frances Gurney who lived to 75 (unlike her daughter my ancestor Frances who lived to 32), who were her parents?  This Berks/Bucks family must be discounted and I note a certain "Pauline Batterby" researched that contemporary Frances Gurney that she died in Shoreditch and wrongly put in the St James's Westminster marriage to Goldsmith which is totally misleading.  I think lowly Westminster records might be dry for births in that 1790s period, I don't know.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=paulbatt&id=I00608

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London and Middlesex / Re: Frances/Fanny Goldsmith b. in London "1823" BEST RESEARCHERS THANK YOU!
« on: Monday 21 May 18 19:44 BST (UK)  »
This is the best family history research I have come across, thank you so much as it adds a lot to my family history and makes for my only truly local roots!!!!  ;)   An scholar and a gent you are Sir, much appreciated!

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London and Middlesex / Frances/Fanny Goldsmith b. in London "1823"
« on: Sunday 20 May 18 17:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi all!

I have a marriage registration (but no Kingston marriages parish records - does anyone have access to look at these...) and a +/- 1 year birth date and exact death date for Frances Barnes (her married name). Her maiden name is Frances or Fanny Goldsmith.  Where was she born and to whom?  (does anyone have access to London parishes birth registers)?  The main census contender (on 8/6/1841) does not seem to give birthplaces unless anyone has a full transcript:

"Institution" Drury Lane, St Giles in the Fields
Mary Goldsmith      F   55-59   Middlesex
Mary Goldsmith      F   15-19   Middlesex
Fanny Goldsmith   F   15-19   Middlesex
Joseph Garratt      M   25-29   
Robt Painter      M   15-19

"Institution" Penny Fields All Saints Poplar
[many others and...]
John Parr      M   35-39   Not Known
Geo Webster   M   60-64   Scotland
John Ryan      M   25-29   Not Known
Fanny Goldsmith   F   16-20   Middlesex

This is not going to be easy. It will require an expert like you! as  the 1851 census puts her birthplace down as London and she did not live until the 1861 census. 

Helpful basics:
   
Thomas Barnes, a carpenter
1819 Chertsey, Surrey – 1864 Staines, Middx
lived single in 1841 (wife had first child early 1843) and was with Mary Gardner in Church Street Staines whilst a carpenter's apprentice, simy. William Gardner & Joseph Wooden
wife:
Frances
1823 +/- 1 year"London" – 1854 Staines, Middx

I have scoured the register index and found the marriage, having carefully ruled out two feasible others by looking at censuses.

Marriage Dec Qtr 1841  : Kingston    4   199
BARNES      Thomas              
GOLDSMITH    Fanny       

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Antrim / Re: War Graves WW1
« on: Sunday 20 May 18 15:27 BST (UK)  »
As they died in the UK and CWGC site says "investigating..." my first port of call would be the 1911 census and then in a large town or city old maps particularly useful are:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore, the National Library of Scotland have the whole UK covered and interactive

First see if the nearest cemetery has records online, e.g. (gravestone photographic resource, familysearch) for free at first and if you are local then visit, war graves are well-known plain white rectangular headstones. (I am more saying this for those unfamiliar with the subject, not you).  Any marriage records easily found for the parents should narrow down where the parents married and that churchyard or its more recent burials site would be a good port of call, you may be willing to make a discreet enquiry of the church as to what churchyard was used in that timeframe.

Finally, without turning over too much ground, the newspapers and institutional records should bring the graves/service to light with a following wind, but in my opinion a lower % chance and a lot to sift through.



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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 Lookup Request Please
« on: Saturday 19 May 18 17:16 BST (UK)  »
The above was wrong. Thanks Barbara for your great help. I have found her, Victoria Ann Lock at times see below:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=263508.msg6501653#msg6501653

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