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Hi Kay,
   my husband is a Grinstead whose family is from Sussex, mainly Billinghurst and Horsham areas. I do not have a John born 1805 in my database, however I am curious if he could be a cousin to my husbands direct line {Richard (1700's), Daniel (1752), William (1785), Charles (1819), Robert (1858), Frederick Reginald (1900), Robert (1929)}. Have you come across many Grinsteads?

Audie443

Hello Chedzoy,
   you said there where 9 children of Archibald & Elizabeth, you only listed 8 however, who is the 9th?  I have a Matthew(1864) and a ?Withen? (1865) as well as those you listed.

 I am curious about the 1898 death date for Archibald (1823) as he is listed as living by William Wallace (1847) on Margaret's death Cert in 1901.

Jane (1849) married William Miller (son of Peter Miller & Margaret Wright) on 17 June 1847, Kelvin st. Milton, Glasgow
   They had: Amelia (1881); William (1886); James (1889)
     William (ca 1844) died between 1891-1901
    1891 Census lives she with parents, and brothers James and Matthew, with her children    listed as married but husband is not listed with household
1901 Census is widowed lives with children Amelia age 18, and son william age 15, and also lodger William Taylor.  It is possible James died during that time frame as well since he is not listed with the household and he was the youngest.

I have no info other than birth dates for the other children except Margaret (1848).

What are your sources for the families of Alexander (1860) and James (1862)? do you have more info on them? you have Alexander immigrating to the US, do you know where he settled? or what port he arrived at? or an approximate date?

I have these 8 children of William Wallace & Margaret MacDonald. I have had contact with 2 grandchildren of John MacDonald Wallace(1885); first- John MacDonald Wallace (1948) son of Joseph; and second-Alan Wallace (1948) son of John (1917). I have a lot of their info, though probably not all, and have expanded on my own with what they provided as well. where do you fit? I have 19 grandchildren of John MacDonald Wallace(1885) in my database.

info for Children of William Wallace (1848) & Margaret MacDonald (1848):

Margaret-Joan (1874) married William Finlay in 1897 Camlachie, Glasgow
        they had one child : Archibald    no other info known
     I have a death date of 1948 in Maryhill, Glasgow for Margaret-Joan

Jessie McKinlay (1872) married Hendry Ferguson in 1899 Calton, Glasgow
          1901 a Jeanie Wallace lives with sister Elizabeth Kyle and brother in Law James in Camlanchie, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland age 29 uncertain if this could be Jane or Jessie

William (1878) no other info

Jane (1880)
         1901 a Jeanie Wallace lives with sister Elizabeth Kyle and brother in Law James in   Camlanchie, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland age 29 uncertain if this could be Jane or Jessie, based upon age recorded probably Jessie
          further information supports id as Jane as Jessie married in 1899

Archibald (1883) no other info

James (1890) no other info

John MacDonald (1885) married Ellen Lannary in 1908 Greenvale St. Glasgow
        Children: Hannah (1909) married John Randall in 1940  2 children
                       William (1912) married Cecily Unknown   4 children
                       Margaret (1913) married Christopher MacNamara  1 child
                       John (1917) married Constance Pallett  4 children
                       Joseph (1918) married Josephine Campbell in 1947 Glasgow  5 children
                       Betty (1921) married Leslie Plowright in 1951   3 children
   
    I have John MacDonald (1885) died abt. 1931 in Massachusetts and burial in Everett Cemetery, however Everett is a town in Middlesex County, Massachusetts not a cemetery; and the two main cemeteries there are Woodlawn, and Greenwood. I have not been able to confirm yet which, if either, he is buried in . I was given this info by John who got it from Hannah who was there at the time. 

Elizabeth Paton Wallace (1870)  married James Kyle (1868) on 2 June 1892 at Chalmers Street Hall,  Calton, Glasgow
            Their Children:  Margaret MacDonald Kyle (1895) married James Illion Harper
                                                            (my great grandparents) 8 Children
                                   
                                     William (1893) married Christina Gardner   3 children
                                      James (1899) married Margaret Alice Engelsen  3 children
                                     Jane Wallace Kyle 1900-1901 Camlachie, Glasgow
          Elizabeth Paton Wallace Kyle (1903) married Duncan Campbell Ferguson  1 child
                         John Wallace Kyle (1905) married Violet McCLeery   2 children
                               Robert Paterson Kyle (1910) married Ethelynde Small  3 children
                               


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Kris,
   Thanks for the census and info on Mary Jane Phare.  According to 1900 Census Ann had 12 children so that leaves 3 unaccounted for.

Ann's birth date from death cert (1914) was November 30, 1823 father was listed as George Hyne but perhaps was mistaken. 1900 Census also lists her birth as November 1823.

Also wondering about William's siblings as I have found a Thomas Phare, and a John Phare in Cleveland at the same time all born England. There is only 1 other Phare (another William) in Ohio in 1870 and not in same county, so it makes me wondering if all related.

1870 Census East Cleveland
Phare, Thomas age 47 Mason, born England
Phare, Mary age 45    born England
Phare, Thomas age 13 born Ohio
Phare, William age 9 born Ohio

1880 Census East Cleveland
Phare, Thomas age 53 Mason, born England
Phare, Mary age 53 born England
Phare, Henry age 23 born Ohio
Phare, W? age 19 born Ohio

1900 Census East Cleveland
Phare, Henry T. age 43 born May 1857 Ohio, parents born England
Phare, Kate age 47 born November 1852 Ireland, parents born Ireland
Phare, Thomas age 77 widowed, born England November 1822, parents born England  immigrated in 1853, naturalized


1860 Census East Cleveland
Phare, John age 36 born England
Phare, Arabella age 39  born England
Phare, John age 10 born England

1870 Census East Cleveland
Phare, John age 46 born England
Phare, Arabell age 50 born England
Phare, John age 19 born England

1880 Census East Cleveland
Phare, John age 56 Carpenter born England
Phare, Arabella age 59 born England




Thanks,
Audie443

  Thanks for the advice.  I will try and find a death cert at the village clerks.  I did try to find an obituary in the paper but I couldn't find one in the one I searched.  perhaps I should try and find out if Heuvelton was still running their own independent paper at that time or if they had been annexed to Ogdensburg's.  If Heuvelton was already annexed into Ogdensburg's then there was no obituary.

Uncertain of what Susan's religion would be exactly, however to narrow it down, the only churches in Heuvelton are St. Raphel's Catholic, First Methodist, and First Presbyterian.