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Kildare / Re: George Frederick Long bC1828 Kildare
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 05:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi.
I have been looking at a George Long who married Lizzie Carson on 4 Aug 1853  in the Reformed Pres. Meeting House Loughbrickland, Banbridge County Down.  You can view the marriage register in Irish Genealogy. 
The father of this George was Robert Long 'Gentleman'.  George is listed as a Land Agent's Assistant.
I have found only the birth of one child after the Registration of births was introduced (Robert Alexander Long 1864-1864). 
The list of children I believe includes James Carson Long 1855-1913 buried in Belfast , Sedgwick Rea Long 1856-1894 died in Manhattan (sources marriage and death registrations), a baby Robert Edward Alexander Long 1863-1863 who is buried with his mother and namesake in Banbridge, Scarva Street Presbyterian Graveyard. (Find a Grave website). I believe the William R Long in the 1880 New York census return (living in a boarding house with Sedgwick R Long)  is also a child of George and  Elizabeth. 
George was listed as George Frederick Long on the marriage certificate of James C long in Killyleagh in 1883. 
I think this is the same family - do these names tie in with the information you have?  Hoping this is of interest SG

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Down / Re: MOVILLA cemetery Newtownards
« on: Tuesday 15 April 08 17:25 BST (UK)  »
This might help:

www.ards-council.gov.uk

A-Z of services click C

Select Cemetery Services

N.B Movilla is not named (S.G)


Ards Borough Council

2 Church Street
Newtownards
Co.Down
BT23 4AP
Tel: 028 9182 4000
Fax: 028 9181 9628

ards[at]ards-council.gov.uk

"CEMETERY SERVICES

The Council's Parks and Cemeteries section is responsible for the maintenance of 12 cemeteries in the Ards.

Reception staff in the main Council offices have access to burial records dating back to the 1800s and can help with genealogical research.

Cemeteries are open from 8.00am until dusk."

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Completed Census Requests / Re: British Isles Vital Records Index look up
« on: Monday 19 November 07 02:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

As this query is over two years old your research will have moved on and you may already know the info. I am giving.

In our family we have a Miss. Sydney Everest Fisher born on 16th July 1879.  This was one of three girls in the family given the name Sydney, the others were a cousin Sydney Everest Fisher Clark and this Sydney's daughter - Sydney Murphy. 

Miss Sydney Everest Fisher spent her last years in Westbury on Trym near Bristol and died unmarried on Jan 18th 1967.

Her father was Hugh Dugan Fisher (9th Sept 1842-1891).  He was born in Ireland and lived in England although his parents emigrated to New York State in the USA.

I hope that you have found the Sydney Fisher you are looking for.

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Down / Re: Where were they buried?
« on: Thursday 08 November 07 20:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I've just noticed that you want a look up in Vol. 5 of Gravestone inscriptions.

I have it to hand.  In Comber Graveyard (C of I) there are two McCormick burials recorded unfortunately no townlands are mentioned:

McCORMICK
[Probably of 1778.] Here lyeth the body of John McCormick, son to Alexander McCorkick who desesed the 7 of March '78 he being of age 12 years.

McCORMICK
[White marble.] In memory of Thomas McCormick who died 23rd Novr. 1863 aged 55 years. Also his son Thomas who died 24th May 1878 aged 19 years. Also his wife Margaret who died 24th Octr. 1879 aged 70 years.

You know that Ballyrainey is on the Dundonald side of Comber but much closer to Comber than Dundonald - but people seemed to manage to ensure that burials took place in the family ground no matter how far that was! 

My on my mother's side there are McCormicks from near Killinchy.  After 1845 they are buried in the Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Graveyard before that in Killinchy Parish Church - but I do not think that there are gravestones there. 

There is another family who have graves in Tullynakill (between Killinchy & Comber). 

We think that these families cross Strangford from the Ards Peninsula in the late 18th century.  There are burials in graveyards on the peninsula - but I am not certain where.

I will keep a look out for the McCormicks of Ballyrainey.

Hope some of this is of interest

SG

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Down / Re: Where were they buried?
« on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:35 GMT (UK)  »
???
Sorry Part two doesn't read properly - it should have been:

In the Orr Pedigree (most easily accessed through this version:
Ulster Pedigrees by Ray A. Jones 1977 Lib. of Congress Catalog Card No:77-82468)
one McCormick family from Dundonald is mentioned.
The Pedigree was drawn up by Gawin Orr of Castlereagh (1756-1830).

I do not know what happened to the Bullet points in the 3rd message - the buttons don't deliver what they promise!

SG

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Down / Re: Where were they buried?
« on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:29 GMT (UK)  »
3rd time lucky?

The first McCormick mentioned is Samuel (no dates prob. c. 1700)

Margaret Orr m. Samuel McCormick
their children:

  • Henington McCormick of Dundonald m. Agnes (Nancy) Allen
    Margaret McCormick m. Matthew Carruthers of Ballyhanwood
    Elizabeth McCormick m. Wm. Summerside
    Jane McCormick m. John Kearns of CherryValley (prob. Comber)
    Lilly McCormick m. Robert Finlay of "nr. Saintfield"
 

There are children listed for Marg. Eliz. & Jane

Henington McCormick and Agnes (Nancy) Allen
had 3 children:

  • Elizabeth McCormick m. John McClure of Ballyrickart
    Isabella McCormick m. James Clark of Newtownards
    James McCormick (of Mountpottinger) m. Susanna Anderson

There are children listed for Isabella only

James McCormick & Susanna Anderson had 7 children:

  • Hugh McCormick
    Richard McCormick
    Agnes McCormick
    Sarah McCormick
    James McCormick Jnr.
    Gawin McCormick
    John McCormick

If you think these are yr. ancestors I can give you details of previous generations.

SG

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Down / Re: Where were they buried?
« on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:15 GMT (UK)  »
Part 2!

In the Orr Pedigree (most easily accessed through this version:
Ulster Pedigrees by Ray A. Jones 1977 Lib. of Congress Catalog Card No:77-82468)
was drawn up by Gawin Orr of Castlereagh (1756-1830).

He was an elder in Moneyrea Church, a farmer and something of a financial wizard besides being a genealogist. 

He traces families in the area back to James Orr and Janet McClement who came to Ballyblack in the early years of the 17th century.

If you can go back to the generation alive in 1830 and find them in the Pedigree you can go back to the Plantation.



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Down / Re: Where were they buried?
« on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi dollard,

I have McCormick ancestors who were in Dundonald in the 18th century. 

I do not know where they are buried - but we were astonished when a gravestone for Margaret McCormick and her husband Matthew Carruthers turned up in Moneyrea (Moneyreagh) Non-Subscribing Presbyterian graveyard.  I think that is about 4 miles from Dundonald. 

I checked and there are no records of McCormick burials in Moneyrea

I shall split this message - I hadn't realised there was a word limit :-\
SG

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Down / Re: John Orr 1786
« on: Tuesday 23 October 07 22:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

It looks as though John cannot be a nephew of John, son of Gawin.  Even the profile does not really fit - from memory John had trained as an architect and James as a doctor (at Glasgow University), the family had not only brains to burn but a fair bit of spare cash floating around.  Through the Orr Pedigree their family is fairly well documented.

Gawin's genealogy contains 11 Orrs by the name Thomas. Some will be too early to be a potential father of John of Ballymacarrett and none of the likely candidates have children listed. 

Gawin died in 1830 marriages and children after this date are rarely included  so one of the Thomases might yet be the man you are looking for.

Do you have an indication of the name of the denomination on the marriage record or a name of the clergyman? 

The Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Congregation in Mountpottinger did not have a minister until 1874 with the building completed in 1875.  Its origin was in a Sunday School c. 1862 and had functioned as a congregation for several years before being set up formally.  I am not sure whether marriages took place within that congregation before the first minister was appointed in 1874.

If the marriage took place in a Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church (also known as Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Congregational Church, or perhaps Remonstrant Presbyterian) this would point to John being from the same family as Gawin Orr.   
Many moved from north Down to work in Belfast and the Mountpottinger congregation had many families from the Moneyrea (Moneyreagh) area.

If the denomination is Non-Subscribing you might try Moneyreagh Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Church - there is a chance that John is in the baptismal record or his parents were married there after the start of registration of marriages.

If not then it is more difficult as there are so many Presbyterian churches around!

Incidentally if you run a search for Ballymacarrett you will see it is on the south bank of the Lagan, I think Mountpottinger is adjacent.

Hoping this is of some help

SG


 


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