Hi again Casalquida
UPDATE
You are a STAR *****
Whoops our posts crossed, I'll re-do -
I've been frantically looking for that Census since I read what you said. I found it and was posting as you posted your reply. I couldn't read that Essex bit either, I read it as County Essex
LOL
These guys have to be my family. The 3 sons Philip, Arthur and James in the 1871 tie in with other info we already have but couldn't marry up. More brothers!!
I cannot understand how I missed this, I've downloaded so many records I've gone boss-eyed.
Having another look at your own Newlyns - a recently found Newlyn relative of mine has put together a spreadsheet with all our combined efforts and your names are in there I seem to recall, I'll get on to him again - but I had no confirmed Essex connections. There is an aged Uncle with a very good memory who has provided lots of info on Essex Newlyns, Barking Road, Mayfield Road, Clarence Road in the early 1900s. His grandfather is John Newlyn, fishmonger. Your info here has given me the connection, this is the first time I have the brothers William and John together - along with others I knew nothing about. The mis-spelling Newland is no surprise either. There is also an aged aunt in Oz (not a Newlyn but from another twig) who says they were Newlands (with an 's') and came from up North. There are Newlyns up North, but not these particular ones. So, probably all connected. There's always a bit of truth in every legend I think. So William (the elder) at Salutation Alley born in Essex might give us the link after all.
The 1881 Census is disconcerting, obviously same family - if you ignore the spelling - the Henry and Emily have me worried (if they are my Grandfather and his sister) because listed as son and daughter which would make Elizabeth 43 and 45 respectively at birth - also, if they are children and not grandchildren the ages are the wrong way around.
If Elizabeth King (Mother on birth certs) is not this Elizabeth I now have to look for a King family at Robert Street to see if my g.aunt (Emily) is there with mother Elizabeth (who must be about 16 as well), unless she was a lot older than my g.grandfather William at Salutation Alley LOL.
Once again, big thanks. This is my break-through of that brickwall.
I do hope you are having success with your Newlyns. If you need any searches done, you only have to ask, I'd be very happy to do it. I'll give you my private mail but I'm not sure how to send you private e-mail through this site. If you want it, I'll willingly give you all the info I have gathered so far.
Let me know
Good wishes
Jan
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