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Devon / WARREN family of Ashburton
« on: Tuesday 27 March 12 11:48 BST (UK)  »
To anyone who might be able to assist, My family Warren came from Ashburton, Devon at sometime just after the religious turmoil of the 1640's. According to the Reverend Thomas Warren [History of the Warren Family] John Warren [a Parish Clerk at Marnhull, Dorset] came to Dorset about 1680 with his son John [Born 1658] and held the post of Parish Clerk at Marnhull until his death in January 1698/99?

The Dorset records office confirmed his death and burial at that time but could not confirm his work. I do know that his son John [b1658] became Parsi Clerk after him and he was followed by his son Christopher about 1750 or perhaps a little earlier, [John the younger died 1752]. Christopher married and had a son Martin [b1733] who died about 1780 of smallpox. He had a son also named Christopher who migrated to Southampton about 1780-89 and his first son Uriah was born there in 1790. The family were also Stone Masons from about 1680 and continued in that trade right up until Christopher [b 1768] died in Southampton about 1830.

My look up request may be too difficult but here goes; I need to know if John Warren b 1617 at Ashburton was the Parish clerk who came to Marnhull. If he is the one, his father would be Christopher Warren [b1585] and mother would be Alice Webb [married 1613]. His older brother would have been Robert Warren [Clerk and Rector of Maker and Rame in Cornwall] who was born in 1615 and who died in 1668 at Rame and who is buried in the church at that village. The Reverend Thomas Warren got his information on my family from the Reverend John Hutchins who also wrote his own history of Devon and Dorset. Hutchins gleaned his information on the Ashburton Warren family from the Reverends Harry and Conyers Place who were resident in Marnhull at that time and they probably were able to pass the information on direct from Christopher Warren [son of John the younger married Ruth] who was Parish Clerk at the time of Hutchins visit.

The only way I can see that proof could be forthcoming, is by finding out where the 81 year-old John Warren [b1617] came from and when he arrived in Marnhull. I have exhausted Marnhull completely and well know every Warren family [and their dogs] from 1561 to 1780. The proof I need is that John born of Christopher and Alice in 1617 is the correct trail.
Regards
Rayw1

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Dorset Lookup Requests / John Warren 0f Marnhull
« on: Tuesday 02 August 11 08:58 BST (UK)  »
John Warren [B 1617 d 1698] was the Parish Clerk of that village and he passed that work on to his son John Warren [b1658 d 1752] married Ruth. I am still trying to find John's [b 1617] birthplace. The Reverend Thomas Warren gives his birth as probably being in Ashburton, Devon. I have records of proof of his burial in Marnhull on January 29th 1698 from the Dorset records office.

This John is not related to the Sydling branch that were already incumbent in that village and I am hoping that someone can assist me in proving that John [b 1617] was or was not the son of Christopher Warren Rector of Ilsington, Devon and brother of Robert Warren, Rector of Maker and Rame in Cornwall c1668.
RayW1

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Robert WARREN Rector of Rame, Cornnwall
« on: Wednesday 07 April 10 19:04 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to find the remnants of the Warren Family of Maker and Rame. They were  brought to that area by the Reverend Robert Warren [Maker] in 1663. In 1668 he was made Rector of Rame but died the day after taking up his post. He married Margaret Burgess of Peter Tavy and had children Christopher, Robert, Thomas, Peter, Nathaniel, Margaret and Ann. These children were all born before 1660. The heir [Robert] became Rector of Rame after his father and married Priscilla Granger and they had children Margaret, William, Mary, Grace,John, Robert, Sarah, Thomas and Thomas b July 1689. I do not wish to go backwards from here, I would like to come as far forward as possible. Rector Robert Warren Jr [m Priscilla] and his wife both died about 1690 and I believe that they may have moved to Plymouth [relatives] or Hampshire. Can anyone let me know if there are family still existent who are of that direct line. I believe that they are definitely related. Rayw1

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Dorset / Re: Martin Warren of Marnhull, Dorset.
« on: Sunday 28 March 10 11:29 BST (UK)  »
John Warren Born 1801 is the son of Martin married Elizabeth, they had other children Ann, b1803, Sarah b 1806, James b 1808 and Joseph b 1811. I am looking for the parents and Grandparents of your John's father, Martin Warren

I believe that George Warren of Cambourne, Cornwall took his wife Marjory Nowell Warren to Marnhull in Dorset where they are recorded as having children, some of whom were baptized on visits to Cornwall. One of these children was Martin Warren b c1765 and if he is the correct one, married in 1698 with his first born [John] arriving in 1801
Regards
rayw1

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Dorset / Martin Warren of Marnhull, Dorset.
« on: Sunday 28 March 10 10:24 BST (UK)  »
Help needed please, I am looking for the Parents and Grandparents of Martin Warren who was born c1770. He married about 1798, to Elizabeth?? possibly FOYLE of Wiltshire and had a first son John who was born in 1801. I believe that he may be the progeny of George Warren Married Marjory Nowell because of the George and Joseph name usage in that family line.

He should not be confused with Martin born 1733 to Christopher Warren at Marnhull and not with that Martin's son Martin who was born about 1767 and who married Mary Burge.

Martin m Elizabeth had at least four children, John 1801, Sarah 1806, Joseph b 1811 and William b1817
Thank you in advance
Rayw1

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Dorset Lookup Requests / Re: John Warren of Marnhull Dorset
« on: Monday 10 November 08 06:40 GMT (UK)  »
To Judy,
;D Dear Judy, Please get excited, if you are of that Line George George etc, I can not only assist you greatly but can introduce you to your cousin in Canberra Australia, provided you are not his wife!! Yes we are related, but slightly less than you are to Peter Warren whose direct line is George George ect, I can give you all their wives and etc if you like and you will find that the Warrens of Marnhull are pretty well all related and probably your line are cousins of my line. I believe that one or both lines came into Dorset from Devon and Cornwall. This is for you to decide once you see what records I have. I do have the Parish records for Marnhull and for the place where your people hung out at Stalbridge a few miles down the track. I also have all you need on the Isle of Wyte crowd as well.
Rayw1  ;D

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For Sale / Wanted / Events / EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST ON NEW SHIPPING REGISTER SITE
« on: Sunday 02 November 08 06:25 GMT (UK)  »
     
    A new Shipping register site that covers the settlement years 1788 through to 1949 when the last of the old Tall Ships departed colonial waters. The site will consist of data pertaining to the Convict Ships [all data for each voyage[ which will include convict names for the first fleet and some twenty other vessels that transported convicts to Australia.

The site will also list almost all passenger vessels with brief histories on each vessel including Captain and Surgeon's names where available. Shipwreck and Castaways including those who lived with natives will also be included. some diaries and short stories have been made available by pioneer families and the site will be looking to add to them.

The site includes shipping to both Australia and New Zealand and will contain some images of relevant Tall Ships.

A small joining fee will be appropriate on an annual basis but this will give complete freedom of the site and its 3000 page data bank. Questions and expressions of interest on this site "THE WARREN REGISTER OF COLONIAL TALL SHIPS" are invited forthwith. Anyone with diaries or data pertaining to the colonial years are invited to make contact with the Author via his blog page. [Google Wildflower the Barbara Crawford Thompson Story and click on Telstra big Blog].
rayw1
 

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Dorset / Re: Warren Family of Marnhull, Dorset
« on: Tuesday 21 October 08 14:27 BST (UK)  »
 :o Hey Daniel, I hope I have not taken you back further than myself now, your lot were worse than mine for breeding, especially James' grandfather. James' father was Henry and his mother was Alice Wordford. They were married on the 29th of May 1807 by Banns.

Now it looks like you have a little Glitch in the Warren Works in Stour Provost, Henry appears to have been born out of Wedlock [Base born] on 22nd of April 1787 to Sarah Warren, daughter of Henry and Susannah Mary Anne Warren.

They in turn were prolific breeders and had ten children of which nine survived past the age of one year. The children were Sarah b 1764, Martha 1766, Ann 1768, William 1770, Robert 1772, John 1774, George 1776, George 1777, Matthew 1778, and Susannah 1781. 

Henry and Susannah were married in 1764 on the 7th of February and Henry was born in 1732 to John Warren [wife not registered] but I suspect that it is Sarah of Marnhull.

The father of Henry [married Susannah Mary Ann] was John Warren [wife was Sarah as far as I am concerned] and they married about 1736. This is as far as I can take you, my neck is starting to hurt. My thoughts are that your John and Sarah were both from Marnhull [Sarah certainly was for she is recorded as being from there in the parish records for Stour Provost]

It is there that you probably join in with the other Marnhull Warrens, that date back to the first John of Marnhull that I know and he was John Warren Born 1617 at Ashburton in Devon. Although this is not absolutely proven, it does seem like the Warrens came from that area into Dorset.


Most of my lot in Marnhull were Parish Clerks combined with a day jpb as stone masons. John and Christopher were names used within our Warrens over and over again and the fact that you have several Johns in your lot may pull them in with mine at Marnhull.

I have since discovered that your John was probably born at or near Swanage [Dorset] in 1701. He married Sarah Hayward at that place in 1730 and I am only able to find William Born to them in 1736 and Henry born 1737 at this moment. It  appears that most of the Warrens in the district were related anyway. I hope this assists you in your search. I also wonder if this John [married Sarah] was not the son of John and Ruth Warren in c1690, they had several children and perhaps John was born of them.
 
Regards
Rayw1[/b
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Dorset / Re: Warren Family of Marnhull, Dorset
« on: Tuesday 21 October 08 12:50 BST (UK)  »
Hey Daniel, sorry to be so long, I went walkabout chasing your Warren Mob of Todber, Dorset. I have no doubt that the Warrens in the area were all related, they breed like Rabbits even today.

I have a few items that might interest you; James, the father of George Warren was born 1807. His son George was married to Louisa and she was a woman of Stalbridge where they may have married c1874.  Their children were Eliza b 1875, Seymour b 1877, Alfred Born 1880.

The whole family were living together in 1881all except for Hester Drew/Trew Warren who had died. Both names, Trew and the more likely "Drew" were common around Marnhull. James was born at Stour Provost and he married Hester on the 31st of December 1832. Regarding Enos Warren, he married Caroline c1864/5 and they had children Henry b 1867 Eva  b 1669, Emily b1871 and Walter born 1877.

Todber, Dorset appears to be the home town with Stour Provost and Stalbridge aslo having a part. I could not find anything for Enos's brother James except a birth 1842. Hope that helps a little, I think that there is a possibility that Louisa was of the Hook/Restorick family of Colyton in Devon but of that I am unsure, I know that others of that family were living in Dorset. My suggestion is that you have someone look up Stour Provost because that is where George came from and I have a thought that Louisa [born 1846/7/8 might be registered there because she is not registered at Stalbridge in the years mentioned. The Marriage date for George Warren and Louisa Hooke Restorick was 1/4/1867 and that year fits in with the Children's births. Louisa also had a brother Alfred and her mother was Elizabeth. I could not find a Seymour Restorick so that must have been a name George and Louisa threw in to bung up the works. Go not forget to try alternative spellings.
That is all I can find at the moment so have a go at that and see idf any of it fits in. ::)
Regards
Rayw1

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