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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: VANNET in Arbroath
« on: Tuesday 06 February 24 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hello! I haven't thought about Vannets for a long time. I hope you enjoy browsing posts on Rootschat.

Harry

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Scotland / Re: When does a nickname become a wrong name?
« on: Tuesday 30 January 24 21:18 GMT (UK)  »
And there are no coroners' inquests in Scotland because there are no coroners. Accidental or suspicious deaths are investigated by the local crown agent, the procurator fiscal. In exceptional circumstances a Fatal Accident Inquiry may be called for, usually years after the event from what I can gather, when people's memories are unreliable. Not the best aspect of Scots Law.

Harry

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Scotland / Re: When does a nickname become a wrong name?
« on: Tuesday 30 January 24 19:32 GMT (UK)  »
In the fishing villages of north-east Scotland certain surnames would be so common that families and their members would be distinguished by a "tee-name" or nickname. In Buckie for example there might be more than a dozen men called Jimmy Cowie. Sometimes a particular tee-name would be adopted as the main surname. I used to know a woman from Buckie whose maiden name was Cornell. I used to think it was an unusual name then discovered it was a tee-name for some of the Buckie Cowies and her family had adopted it as their surname.

Harry

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Fife / Re: Innes family of St Monance
« on: Saturday 20 January 24 09:48 GMT (UK)  »
I'm sorry to hear of your family troubles. I lost both my parents a long time ago and more recently both my elder sisters have died.

I had forgotten about this correspondence and have just re-read it from the start. If anyone still has queries about St. Monans ancestors I'll try to help.

Harry

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Fife / Re: Cassels and Possible link to Kennedys
« on: Friday 22 December 23 10:34 GMT (UK)  »
Also match with someone whose ancestor is James Orr Kennedy b abt 1863 Co Down, father John Orr Kennedy, m Elizabeth Frame 1893 Comber Co. Down. They have common matches with myself and other Cassells matches

Orrs, Kennedys and Frames in the Comber area are mentioned in the Orr MSS in the Linen Hall Library in Belfast, also available as a privately-printed book, Ray A. Jones "Ulster Pedigrees: Descendants, in Many Lines, of James Orr and Janet McClement who emigrated from Scotland to Northern Ireland ca 1607". Have you seen it? It doesn't go up as far as the 1890s, but in the mid-1700s there is a marriage between James Kennedy of Comber and Janet Orr, daughter of William Orr of Ballygowan and his wife Jane Walker. There were Frames around the same area.
Harry

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Fife / Re: Kidds from Colinsburgh
« on: Monday 18 December 23 14:21 GMT (UK)  »
Any connections to the descendants on Robert Kidd baptised 1728 Kilconquhar who married 1754 Susanna Peebles and their sons Andrew baptised 1758, Thomas baptised 1761 (my line), John baptised 1767 and Robert baptised 1769 who may have died 1769?

Probably irrelevant, but in 1827 a John Peebles married Catherine Kidd in Logie parish. She died in 1870 and was the d/o James Kidd, ploughman, and Elspeth Harley.

Harry

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Midlothian / Re: Edinburgh - Dundas Street
« on: Friday 03 November 23 23:49 GMT (UK)  »
The ninth entry down from the top is for the death of the Rev. James Forrester. As the burial ground isn't mentioned by name I assume it's St. Cuthbert's churchyard at the west end of Princes St./bottom of Lothian Road.

Harry

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Midlothian / Re: Edinburgh - Dundas Street
« on: Friday 03 November 23 12:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to all responders.  Having invested in some of Scotland's People, it becomes more of a puzzle.  The register in Fife (where the groom was minister) records that the banns were duly published, and the couple were married in Edinburgh on 2nd February [1825].  The Edinburgh parish register entry records their marriage as having been on 23 January "3 pro, no objection".  I take this to mean 3 proclamations of banns.
The bride was shown in the Kilrenny register as residing in Edinburgh.
No number in Dundas Street is shown in Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine, where I first found the marriage, or in either register entry.
In the light of what you kind people have said, I conclude that the marriage was at the bride's residence, and not the kirk.
A

I'm interested to read about your links to these old Kilrenny ministers. I was brought up in the former fishing village of Cellardyke, the main centre of population in Kilrenny parish, and I have been researching our local history since the early 1980s. I wrote a book about the village which came out in 1986, and of course I have often come across the Revs. Forrester and Brown in my researches.

James Forrester was minister of Anstruther Wester for 30 years before transferring to Kilrenny for a further 10 years.  The Kilrenny OPR for 1808 records that "The Revd. James Forrester, Minr. of this parish, after Two years debility of body and mind, died at his house in Gilmour place, Edinr., on the 5th Decr. 1808, in the 63rd year of his Age, and 40th of his Ministry."

That street is now spelt Gilmore Place. I lived there for three years as a student in the 1960s.

The Rev. James Brown was married in 1821 at Kilrenny to Ann Rankine, daughter of Captain William Rankine, the tenant of Barnsmuir, near Kilrenny. She was very popular with the local people, so much so that several baby girls were called after her, including my 2 x great-grandmother Ann Rankine Gellatly. Unfortunately Ann Rankine or Brown died in 1823 after only two years of marriage. Two years later again the Rev. Brown married Mary Forrester. Mr. Brown died in 1834 aged 45. He and his 1st wife Ann Rankine are buried in an enclosure by the north wall of Kilrenny churchyard with a marble tablet which is very informative about the family. One descendant lived in Los Angeles. Strangely enough there is no mention of Mary Forrester on the tablet and I don't know when and where she died.

Capt. Rankine was succeeded as tenant of Barnsmuir by George Fortune, who married a daughter of the Rev. Brown and Ann Rankine. There is some dispute about which daughter he married. Another of my 2 x great-grandmothers, Marjorie Myles from Crail, would become cook and housekeeper at Barnsmuir!

Harry

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