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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Very odd Common Ancestor / Thrulines match
« on: Monday 16 January 23 13:36 GMT (UK)  »
Ancestry trees are definitely to be taken with a pinch of salt. I sometimes look at them, but validate anything plausible with my own in depth research. Most of time this disproves them. For example, for one of my brick walls there are several identical trees which have a mother who was born over 20 years after her son's baptism...

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Philip and James Dowsett - Occupation
« on: Saturday 14 January 23 16:53 GMT (UK)  »
Higler?

HIGLER, Eng. law. A person who carries from door to door, and sells by retail, small articles of provisions, and the like.

Queenie  :)
Thank you both for helping me. I had thought Higler, but was doubting myself (and whether that was an H).

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Philip and James Dowsett - Occupation
« on: Saturday 14 January 23 16:30 GMT (UK)  »
I'd like some opinions on Philip and James' occupations please. Many thanks

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Something pilot in 1851 census
« on: Monday 02 January 23 12:11 GMT (UK)  »
I agree with Zefiro and Bearkat: Trinity Pilot

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The Common Room / Re: Mary Denyer real maiden name
« on: Friday 30 December 22 17:34 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder if this birth is relevant??  - Just noticed the child is mentioned in your first post re 1881 census

 DENYER, ROSANNA  BURNES      -     
GRO Reference: 1881  M Quarter WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 138

There is the death of  a Rosanna Burn Denyer in 1882

Kay

I think that must be the Rose from the 1881 census. Would explain why her name never occurs again. Thank you

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The Common Room / Re: Mary Denyer real maiden name
« on: Friday 30 December 22 16:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to this I've found a James Denyer (transcribed Denges) c.1841 Warburton Sussex living in Plaistow, Essex on the 1871 census with his parents William and Mary
There's the death of a James Denyer in West Ham district in 1876 age 37, could be Emily's father

I've managed to find Ellen Jane Sparkes nee Denyer on the 1939 and her date of birth is listed as 15th January 1878, which would agree with the quarter and year her birth was registered in. I know it's not set in stone, but I think that rules out James Denyer who died in AMJ 1876.

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The Common Room / Re: Mary Denyer real maiden name
« on: Friday 30 December 22 15:28 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to this I've found a James Denyer (transcribed Denges) c.1841 Warburton Sussex living in Plaistow, Essex on the 1871 census with his parents William and Mary

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The Common Room / Mary Denyer real maiden name
« on: Friday 30 December 22 13:15 GMT (UK)  »
I have put this in the Common Room because Mary's history involves 3 counties.

Sorry about the amount of information listed here, but I wanted to show what I have already researched to save taking up Rootschatter’s valuable time.

I am trying to establish the real maiden name of Mary Denyer, the grandmother of Daniel Hawes b.1903 Canning Town MMN Burn. OND W. Ham 4a 164

From this I found his baptism St Luke, Victoria Docks May 8th 1905 to Daniel (a sailor) and Fanny.

From this I found a Marriage entry for Daniel Hawes and Fanny Elizabeth Burn OND 1902 West Ham 4a 559. I have not been able to locate a parish marriage entry online for this.

From this I found a 1911 census entry for the family Registration District Number:188 Sub-registration District: Canning Town ED, institution, or vessel:36 Piece: 9506. With Fanny born c.1882 Canning Town. I found a GRO entry for Fanny Elizabeth Burn Mar 1883 West Ham 4a 128 MMN FULLER.

I could not find a marriage for this, so I went to Census entries instead:

1901 West Ham Piece:1584 Folio:145 Page number: 50 Household schedule number: 308
John b.1846 Southampton Hants General Labourer
Mary b.1846 Warnham Sussex
Fanny b.1882 Canning Town
Alice b.1889 Canning Town

1891 West Ham Class: RG12; Piece:1327; Folio:59; Page: 50
John Burn 1847 King’s Somborne Hants   
Mary Burn 1846 Warnham Sussex   
Ellen Denyer 1876 (Step Daughter) Woolwich North
Fanny E Burn   1883 Canning Town

Using the step daughter’s name I found an entry on the 1881 census for West Ham

Mary Denyer b.1845 Sussex Widow
Ellen Denyer b. 1878 West Ham
Listed as a boarder is John Burn b.1848 Hampshire Widow Railway Labourer and his daughter Rose T Burn b.1881 (7 weeks old) West Ham (have found no other record of her)

From this I found a marriage 1882 1c 458 Bethnal Green 17th December St James the Great, John Burn (bachelor) occ labourer father (deceased) George Burn to Mary Denyer (widow) father Edward DENYER (Labourer).

I also found a marriage for Ellen (middle name listed as Jane) Denyer with John Burn as a witness, so I am sure that it is her. July 9th 4a 263 1898 St Luke Victoria Docks to James Sparkes. She lists her father as James Denyer occ Labourer. From this I found a birth entry for Ellen Jane Dyner which I believe to be her 1878 West Ham JFM 4a 68 MMN JONES. I couldn’t find a baptism for this.

I cannot find a birth entry for Alice c.1889 to see what the MMN is listed as, but I have found 2 marriages with John listed as her father.

I have tried to find Mary’s first marriage and also her birth and census records before the 1881 census with no luck and there is quite a bit of conflicting information. I am hoping fresh eyes and knowledge with help me unravel this. Thank you

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Address Unclear
« on: Thursday 29 December 22 20:49 GMT (UK)  »
I agree with Kiltaglassan - Nicolson Street

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