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Surrey Completed Look up Requests / Re: Croydon Betchleys
« on: Sunday 25 July 10 21:59 BST (UK)  »
Hello again - after quite a break.

Well, what a headache this James is to us all.  I now feel inclined to put aside the transported James altogether.

Just a thought: from the records, the transported James was age 28 at the time of his arrival in Tasmania on 12th January 1820. This gives a birth date of circa 1791/2.  (James Betchley snr. and Mary Isted married in 1794). He also seemed to be something of a habitual lawbreaker by nature.  The Croydon James, who seemed much steadier on the face of it,  died in early 1884, age 87 - which ties in better with the baptism date of 30th September 1796 in East Grinstead.  Not that it proves anything at all, of course!

But, one will always wonder........!

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Travelling People / Re: Mitcham Redskin village/ Phipps Bridge
« on: Wednesday 13 August 08 15:59 BST (UK)  »
Not a lot of help here, daveymart, but my dad was a policeman in Mitcham and I remember him talking of Redskin village back in the 1950's so it was on his beat. I remember walking past it with him once - I vaguely remember a fenced-off area alongside the road, pretty dilapidated - don't think it was very large. Sadly, I don't know exactly where it was.

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Surrey Completed Look up Requests / Re: Croydon Betchleys
« on: Wednesday 13 August 08 15:39 BST (UK)  »
I have Brookhouse Farm, Balcombe, as the residence of James Betchley (b 1767) and his wife Mary (Isted).  In 1841 Census, their son Edward was farming there - James had died (c1824, Balcombe). Mary, the widow was with Edward. They had left the farm by 1851 and Edward eventually died in East Grinstead Workhouse. Some of Edward's siblings went to Croydon - the connection which interests me, personally.

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Surrey Completed Look up Requests / Re: Croydon Betchleys
« on: Tuesday 12 August 08 21:10 BST (UK)  »
Hello Roy G

Can't believe my luck: I too was confused by the two James Betchley's apparently born East Grinstead around 1796 - and I also wondered if it was one and the same!  The one who was sent to Tasmania makes interesting reading, but the one I am interested in is the Croydon connection. His daughter Ann was a direct ancestor of my husband. Have you managed to find out more yet?

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