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Messages - jamesmatthews45

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Caithness / Re: Visit to Caithness - McGregor, McLeod, Sutherland, Gun
« on: Saturday 09 January 10 17:01 GMT (UK)  »
Hi W,

You gave me the kick in the pants that I needed today and I have been doing some work on the tree.

I am in the process of updating my family tree to Ancestry.co.uk.  I found Sutherland Williamson – he was down as Sutherland Williamson McGregor born 12 Oct 1870 again another strange one taking on the mother’s name.  You could be right and his father’s name could have been Williamson and the Sutherland part could have come from grandparents?  We will never know. His mother was Ann McGregor born 1848 who is the daughter of James and Janet/Jessie McGregor.
 
I am not sure where the first Kenneth McLeod came from.  However, looking a local history I assume the he has come from the Isles to Latheron when the fishing was good had two children with Janet/Jessie then moved onto Peterhead or Fraserburgh.  Just got some information on this one – A paternity suit was won against Kenneth McLeod, Fisherman, residing in Peterhead by Jessie McGregor for Charles McGregor (Kenneth’s brother) – Scottish Records Office.  Don’t quite know how I would follow this one up.

I will go through all the info you have sent there is always something new that comes out of it lol.
I too have tried to find out where the Old Meeting House was, but have not been able to find anything out.

Another two lines I am going to follow – just for the interest is the Latheron Parish Poor’s Cash Book (Scottish Records Office, Edinburgh) 1842 at Latheronwheel district Widow Charles McGregor 4/- (four shillings) paid to Joseph McKay

1843 – Widow Charles McGregor paid to himself 4/- .   

This is all information left to be by a great aunt god only knows what it is about?  The other is she left notes of Robert McGregor and Mary Sutherland both of Sempster were matrimonially contracted in order of marriage 14th of 21st June 1762.  Children were:
Margaret Baptised 18/07/1763
John 07/10/1764
Mary 10/04/1768
Charles 13/08/1770
Anna  **/05/1775
As you can see I have a lot to do lol.  I think I need a beer lol. 

Regards, Jim

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Caithness / Re: Visit to Caithness - McGregor, McLeod, Sutherland, Gun
« on: Saturday 09 January 10 11:04 GMT (UK)  »
I have now been snowed in at my place since 31 Dec but have had a resupply of beer lol.  We are now hoping to be there 5/6 Feb.  I do have the information you have given but it is always nice to get confirmation from people as I am still fumbling about at this.

You have given me information that I did not know i.e. that an illegitimate child took the father’s name.  I have little bits on Kenneth it would appear that at some stage he used the name Kenneth McGregor McLeod and indeed I have my Grandmothers marriage certificate giving her name as Williamina Gilchrist McGregor McLeod.  I also have a copy of the 1891 census where he is named Kenneth McLeod along with a brother Charles McLeod.

From family verbal history it would appear that Jessie/Janet McGregor took Kenneth’s Father (Kenneth McLeod) to court at either Fraserburgh or Peterhead, with regards to parenthood from then on he dropped the name McLeod.

I will have to try and find the 1881 Census as the 1891 has Sutherland McGregor as Sutherland Williamson.

Keep the info comming lol I am loving it.

Regards,

Jim

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Caithness / Re: Visit to Caithness - McGregor, McLeod, Sutherland, Gun
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 20:17 GMT (UK)  »
Have put off trip for a few weeks as we are snowed in.  We have not left the house since 31st Dec.  Now run out of beer - situation critical.

Regards,

Jim

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Caithness / Re: Visit to Caithness - McGregor, McLeod, Sutherland, Gun
« on: Tuesday 29 December 09 07:03 GMT (UK)  »
LOL I will.  I have been looking at doing this trip for about a year now and now that it was given to me for Christmas I feel I am not prepared.  Still there will always be another visit.

I am close to Fochabers and go to Lossiemouth where we can see the snow in Caithness from across the water.

regards,

Jim

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Caithness / Re: Visit to Caithness - McGregor, McLeod, Sutherland, Gun
« on: Sunday 27 December 09 08:50 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks for that.

In the past I used to travel up that way with work taking large trucks and coaches up the Berridale Braes and onto Wick, but did not know of my family connections.  I have wanted to make this journey for a long while and was given the trip as a Xmas gift.  I am so looking forward to my stay.

Regards,

Jim

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Caithness / Visit to Caithness - McGregor, McLeod, Sutherland, Gun
« on: Saturday 26 December 09 14:57 GMT (UK)  »
I am visiting Smerral, Latheronwheel on 8/9 Jan 2010 and was wondering if anyone has details of members of my family I have a copy of the 1891 census giving my family members Janet McGregor, Jessie (Janet) McGregor, Sutherland Williamson (Grandson), Kenneth McLeod (registered as McGregor and illegitimate – my great grandfather)  and Charles McLeod living in Newport, Berrydale.

Kenneth married Ann Sutherland Gunn in 1904.  They had my grandmother Williamina Gilchrist McLeod in 1904 in the village of Lybster. At some stage Kenneth McLeod took on the name family (mothers) of McGregor dropping the McLeod.

I am looking to visit places grave yards etc that would be of interest on my two day stay.

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Caithness / Re: Sutherlands
« on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:20 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ostler,

Sorry it has taken me a few days to get back to you but I have been snowed under with work and have not had a chance to get onto the site.

All this information is great and I will try and upload it during the weekend.  I think I will purchace more credits on Scottish People and get Certificates for all these people - just something I like to do.  Same as trying to get old maps and pics to upload onto ancestory site.

Once again many thanks for everything you are doing.

regards, Jim

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Caithness / Re: Sutherlands
« on: Friday 23 October 09 07:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ostler

LOL that would be great I have Janet as being the one who went on to wed a James McGregor on 14 Sep 1837 at Latheron.  I still might be fumbling but it keeps me oiut of trouble lol.

I was trying to search old maps last night trying to identify places as it would appear that my family lived in Lybster, Berriedale, Latheron and places that no longer exist. 

Again I am just trying to put meat onto the bones as to the kind of life people lived.

Thanks again, any information is greatly appreciated.

Almost forgot to ask, I recieved some paperwork and on on page it mentions Latheron Parish Poors Cash (says Cook) Book  1842 Latheronwheel district, Widow Charles McGregor 4/-  paid to Joseph McKay.  The following year he pays to himself (says herself) four shillings? Would you have any idea where I would start with this one?

Jim   

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Caithness / Re: Sutherlands
« on: Thursday 22 October 09 07:22 BST (UK)  »
This is brilliant.  I am off to work shortly but will have a look at what I have when I return this evening.  It looks like it will put a lot more meat onto the bones, perhaps not the best way to put it lol.

I also have another side of the family from Latheron and other small settlements in that area, who are the McGregor’s.  It would appear that they come from the Sutherland line. 

It would appear that they moved to the Perth area at some stage where I was eventually born.  I now live just outside of Elgin so a trip to Latheron in on the cards at some stage but I would prefer to do this when I have more information and know the places I want to visit. 

I still think I will have to put all this on a large sheet of paper it would be easier that jumping computer screens.

I really appreciate all the help I am getting from yourself and others as a fumbling novice lol. 

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