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Lancashire / Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« on: Thursday 22 July 21 06:16 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Skoosh, I found the article very sad and moving - what chance did the Native Indians have against guns and the massive force of the white man.

Lancashire / Re: The Salford Sioux - Manchester's own native American community
« on: Monday 19 July 21 14:04 BST (UK)  »
Hi all, I can see that this thread hasn’t been used in a long while but hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction.

I’m helping some friends research a possible link between their families and Buffalo Bill’s Wild West Show. My friends are Romanies and they have a long standing family story about how some of the Sioux Indians lived with them in Salford and later travelled with them. I’ve seen recently that some Sioux disappeared during or just after the Battle of Little Big Horn - I understand they were over here at the time - could they have disappeared with the Romany Gypsies?

Please can anyone tell me the best place to look to find more information about their stay on Salford and their disappearance?


Travelling People / Re: Price family of Cadoxton Barry Glamorgan
« on: Tuesday 04 August 20 20:49 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for trying  :)

Travelling People / Re: Price family of Cadoxton Barry Glamorgan
« on: Tuesday 04 August 20 06:43 BST (UK)  »

Thank you so much for replying.

I would be really grateful if you would do that - I am a member of a few of Romany boards on FB - ‘I Descend From Romany Gypsies’, ‘Romany Ancestry Uk‘ and ‘Friends who like Romany Heritage’, although I’ve only posted about Mona on I Descend from Romany Gypsies so far.

Thank you once again

Travelling People / Re: Price family of Cadoxton Barry Glamorgan
« on: Friday 31 July 20 20:44 BST (UK)  »
We're trying to investigate my daughter's Romany roots and we know she is a Price descendant from her DNA.  We know her grandmother was called Mona Mary Price, born in 1933 - and know she must be related to Caradock somewhere along the way but can't link her to any of the extensive Price family - and we can't pin point her birth records or in the 1939 register.  So would be grateful for any clues or help anyone could give us!

We know Mona married Ronald Rogers in Durham in 1952 but spent time in South Yorkshire and North Derbyshire - they had 6 children.  In 1970, Mona was no longer with Ronald but was living with a Raymond John Smith in Chesterfield - she had two children with Raymond a girl and a boy who were later adopted when she and Raymond split up.

Mona and Ronald's 8 children went to live with their father in Barnsley. 

Mona was described as small, with a beautiful complexion, brown eyes and brown curly hair.  She had a pleasant personality.  Her mother was travelling in Ireland - but we know very little about her.

In approx 1972 Mona moved to a traveller site in Darnall, Sheffield.  She was living in caravan with a young child and was making a living by selling lace and pegs.  This is where the trail ends.

There are few Mona Price's born in 1933 - but none of them look as if they were born into a travelling family.  We don't even know where in the UK she was born - or she could have been born in Ireland?

Rutland / Re: Bede House Row,Oakham
« on: Sunday 20 April 14 12:04 BST (UK)  »
Thank you  - definite proof that Bede House Row was later renamed Westgate - I was born at No. 13!

Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Re: John Lewis Parish Record Look Up Please?
« on: Sunday 15 January 12 17:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you both,

I had hoped that the original parish records may have had more information; however....  since I first  wrote my request I have had a bit of a break through - I found him on the 1841 and 1851 census.

I now think the the marriage record for John Lewis and Elizabeth Harris in 1820 was the right one - the key was James Robinson.  I was able to find John and Elizabeth in the 1841 census in St Giles, Oxford and again in the 1851 census in Heap, Bury, Lancashire.  After such a long time looking for him I can't believe I've finally found him!!!

This meant that Elizabeth must have died between 1851 and 1860 when John married his second wife, Sophia Robinson.  Sophia was much younger than John - in fact she was the daughter of James Robinson.  Sophia had an illegitimate child James John Robinson - so I wonder if marrying John was for convenience.  Sophia went on to marry another much old man following the death of John Lewis.

I suppose my next puzzle is to pin point John Lewis's parents - Lewis is such a common  name ;-)

thank you for your help


Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / John Lewis Parish Record Look Up Please?
« on: Thursday 12 January 12 13:03 GMT (UK)  »

I think I might have finally climbed over my brickwall!!

Please could someone look up the Parish records for John's marriage to Elizabeth Harris - here are the details:

John Lewis married Elizabeth Harris 2nd July 1820 in Gloucester St Michael, register reference is P154/14 IN 1/10.  I need to know what John's occupation and his father's occupation were - also possibly his date of birth and anything about witness James Robinson?

Also, hopefully his birth entry:

John Lewis born 24th March 1799 Gloucester St Aldgate, parents John and Margaret.  Would love to know father's occupation, mother's maiden name, address  if possible.

Thanks you!!


Rutland / Re: Bede House Row,Oakham
« on: Monday 26 April 10 13:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi Helen & Toni

We are the Leicestershire & Rutland Records office today - and guess what?  Bede House Row was later renamed Westgate - isn't that amazing.  So I was actually born on the road you were looking for!

I'll see if I can find some old photos of Westgate aka Bede House Row!


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