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The Common Room / Re: William Andrew Baker - solving a family mystery
« on: Saturday 18 March 23 10:30 GMT (UK)  »
He came back to NZ in 1894, before the death of his wife.

It sounds like at that time the intent was that Mary and her sons would follow him back to NZ.

For a divorce in England'Wales, you can try searching your names on but I woudn't personally hold my breath.

It's very likely there was no divorce. The hurdles for the average person (financial, legal, societal) at this time were just too high compared to the relatively simple and face-saving solution of just going somewhere that nobody knew about your first husband and saying you were widowed. There would have been no way the registrar could have cross-checked the information she gave, unless someone locally knew her history and was willing to dob her in.

Have you sighted the 1915 marriage certificate? How is she listed there? If she is "single" or "widowed", you can presume there almost certainly was no formal divorce.

Here she is on the index,

You should be able to order a copy of a historical certificate without a Qgov account, although I do see they are trying to push it hard.

It sounds like these folks would have been members of Lonodn livery companies (Worshipful Company of...)

Records of these are often very handy as they cover how they became members (e.g. through apprenticeship, or through their father).

For example, here are all the Coopers listed as apprentices in Worshipful Company of Carpenters records from 1654-1694.
Cooper, Edward, 21, *152, *190; Elizabeth, *81; Francis, 180; George, *105; Godhelpe, 161; James, *180; John, *5, *134, 152, *161, *198; Prudence, *78; Rebecca, 156; Richard, 23, 40, 59, 76, 83; Thomas, 20, 156; William, 9, 57, 69, 78, *79, 81, 86, 91, 127, 147, 190.

entries take the form of:
Edward Cooper the sonn of Edw: Cooper of Stratford upon Avon in the County of warwick malster hath putt himselfe appntice to Christofer Lockwood for seaven yeares from midsomer day instant.

The Common Room / Re: adoption
« on: Thursday 09 March 23 10:41 GMT (UK)  »
If you can access the workhouse records (if they survive, try county archives first) they may show if the children were transferred to a children's home, "cottage" home, or foster parents.

New Zealand / Re: Norman McLeod Gillespie death Dec 1913 .
« on: Saturday 04 March 23 01:13 GMT (UK)  »
His death certificate would likely be the only item guaranteed to list this info. Except where there was an accident, mostly papers would only say things like "suddenly" or "after a long illness" at most.

At a few notices exist, no particular mention of nature of death.
 - confirms he died at the hospital.

Incidentally I can see his marriage in 1911, but no children.
 - this Erna Kennedy nee Gillespie, whose mother was Catherine, is recorded in NSW deaths as the daughter of a George.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help Please!
« on: Friday 03 March 23 10:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there and welcome to Rootschat!
 Depending on when your grandfather was born you may be able to find some records for him here.

Europe / Re: maybe both died France , cannot find death information for them.
« on: Sunday 26 February 23 11:32 GMT (UK)  »
son Charles in 1910 (mother listed as deceased, father "Auguste" Sonet not listed as deceased) and Pierre in 1912.  At this time they were both resident Villeneuve St. Germain - if you look on the bottom right there is a list of successive addresses for them.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Distant family search
« on: Saturday 25 February 23 13:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there Peter,

Just to confirm, which part of England were they from and what was Eleanor's maiden name?
Any possiblity Eleanor had family in NZ who might have taken the kids in?
I can't see them arriving in 1883 - only a Josehp and Ellen with older children.

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