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Breconshire / Re: david price/williams llywel blaenycwm halfway
« on: Friday 22 December 23 21:38 GMT (UK)  »
If I could add a little local information here, having lived in Llywel for some years, and thus I know the places mentioned in your posts.
The parish of Llywel consists of the hamlets of Llywel & Halfway and the village of Trecastle plus of course the many farms in the area. One of the interesting things is that there are only three or four surnames as all the original families are interrelated in some way.  Having so few surnames resulted in people being known by their farm or house names rather than their surnames - and this was still the case when I lived there in the 1990s.   We lived at Bear House so my husband was known as Mike the Bear. A friend whose house was next to the public loos was known as Cerys Toilet Cottage.  And one chap was called Dai Bungalow because he had nothing upstairs....

I did start writing a history of the house we lived in which was built, it is thought, in the 1500s.  I'll check through my notes & let you know if I find any mention of the people you're researching.

Kind regards

Durham / Re: Joshua's Folly, Hartlepool
« on: Sunday 03 December 23 20:39 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks imsij - nice to have the mystery solved. !

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help Decipher Shorthand?
« on: Wednesday 22 November 23 16:35 GMT (UK)  »
I disagree that the previous manual attempt at translation made no sense.  If you were able to read Pitman shorthand, you would see that what the transcriber wrote coincided with the written shorthand outlines.  The fact that there are gaps means the writer chose to admit uncertainty rather than plough on & make things up - as has already been stated, shorthand writers do tend to devise their own outlines & shortforms, which is why trying to transcribe someone else's shorthand is fraught with difficulties.  In addition you informed us that the bard identified the shorthand as Teeline.  As we know this piece was written a very long time ago, and as Teeline wasn't devised until the 1960s,  there's no way that shorthand can be Teeline.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help Decipher Shorthand?
« on: Wednesday 22 November 23 07:49 GMT (UK)  »
It can't be Teeline shorthand as that wasn't developed until 1968.  I agree with the original suggestion that it's Pitman.  Having been a Pitman shorthand writer for many years I agree with the attempt made earlier by Chris23005.  However as shorthand writers will know, we all develop our own idiosyncrasies so it would be very hard, if not impossible, to run someone's shorthand through an 'app' and get a reasonable transcription.  And equally it is hard for shorthand writers to transcribe others' notes.


Breconshire / Re: Grave of William John Davies
« on: Sunday 19 November 23 19:20 GMT (UK)  »
Looks like the church you're looking for is St Cynog's Church, Ystradgynlais as the Rev James Jones was Rector at the date of the burial.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Hannah/Susanna Wray maiden name wanted
« on: Sunday 27 August 23 21:08 BST (UK)  »
How about Sansom?   That is a surname that does exist so worth a check, perhaps?


Breconshire / Re: James family of Clydach
« on: Wednesday 23 August 23 22:14 BST (UK)  »
This is a really interesting area where people were really mobile, moving from hill  to hill, valley to valley in search of work.  In those days the entire area you cite was so busy with mines and iron-works and families and individuals moved from place to place depending on their circumstances.  I see that Elizabeth was born in Llanelly Brecs, which I think is Llanelly Hill. That's a really strange place, high up, almost a plateau in the clouds.  Driving there you go up and up and then astonishingly an entire busy community - with lots of interesting industrial archaeology - appears before you.

The Common Room / Re: The RAF List
« on: Friday 11 August 23 20:05 BST (UK)  »
I've come rather late to this thread, and delighted to read through and find that the mystery has been solved.  I was an RAF 'sprog' - my father was an NCO and served nearly 30 years so we moved about a lot.  Although I never served, when I tell ex-RAF people about my experiences, the first thing we do is to compare notes about postings and share memories of places we both know.  I too would have been very suspicious of anyone claiming to be ex-RAF who didn't go through this ritual.

Well done everybody for solving the mystery!


The Lighter Side / Re: Family History Surprises
« on: Tuesday 25 April 23 07:42 BST (UK)  »
What wonderful stories!  I love Erato's amazing link with history through the powder house.  And it's so interesting how many of us have ancestors from other countries whose roots were so quickly forgotten - or hidden.

My ancestor, Henry Siggiswick (Sidgwick) of Tudhoe, Co Durham, was sentenced to death for his part in the Northern Rebellion of 1569.  Fortunately for him Elizabeth 1 pardoned him but many were executed to set an example to  others.  Here is an extract from his Will:

"All my farnitorye I give my son George that is to saye a bowe and a shaiffe of arrows a steel cap a sword."

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