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The Lighter Side / Re: Keeping it in the Family
« on: Saturday 24 April 21 15:35 BST (UK)  »
Interesting point on the law, William Sullivan married the Poole sisters in America so like Gillg says the US must have had different laws and as for Elizabeth Rowlett marrying her deceased husbands brother this marriage took place in 1922 so would just have been legal :-)

BourneGooner

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The Lighter Side / Keeping it in the Family
« on: Friday 23 April 21 19:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi All

Just a little oddity I thought I'd share, I have a William Sullivan b.1861 married Susan Poole in 1895, she died 1897 so William married her sister Jane Poole in 1904, Jane then died soon after so William then went and married the third sister Mary Ann Poole in 1916....he either liked the family, they looked similar or he liked his in laws :-)
I've now got an Elizabeth Rowlett who married Walter Needham he died 1917 in the war so Elizabeth then went and married Walters brother Joseph....

I now keeping it in the family is one thing but... ;-)

Just struck me odd I can come across one man who married three sisters and now a woman who married two brothers. Makes for a complicated bit of research.

Still the research goes on

BourneGoone

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The Common Room / Are you related to any one famous?
« on: Wednesday 07 April 21 18:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi All

Just a bit of fun in these strange times but are you related to anyone "famous" in anyway, the best I can come up with is James Bond is my 2nd cousin 4x removed I've now just found out Albert Trotter married another 2nd cousin, alright might not be THE James Bond but.......and I just hope it's not the same Albert Trotter that got that boat stuck in the Canal but you never know.

BourneGooner

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / DNA - Do Not Ask - Sun Newspaper Article
« on: Thursday 04 February 21 18:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All

Just a word of caution.....

Anyone thinking of talking a DNA test may be wise to read the centre spread in today's Sun newspaper entitled Do Not Ask, the story is about people who have taken DNA tests sometimes on a whim other times as gifts from others only to be "shocked after discovering dad wasn't her biological parent" others are finding out parents weren't who they thought they were some have siblings they knew nothing about, some do use these to trace their parents and are happy with the results, but just remember what starts out as a bit of fun looking to see if you have any Viking ancestors may not come back with the results you were expecting.
The truth may well be out there, but are you ready for the results it may uncover.
The piece finishes with experts saying "Some DNA experts believe people are opening up a Pandora's box by buying home testing kits for loved ones"

I don't want to rain on anyone's "fun" but please remember these kits can be dangerous and cause no end of upset.....

That's it speech over....back to the normal forms of research.

BourneGooner

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help with witnesses
« on: Thursday 14 January 21 18:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All

Haven't been on here in a while, hoping someone can help with the following marriage.

Can anyone decipher the witness signatures on the attached marriage record please any help gratefully received.

Regards

BourneGooner

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / DNA Testing can go horribly wrong.
« on: Monday 03 June 19 07:55 BST (UK)  »
This has taken some time to get my thoughts together and I feel almost compelled to write this, hopefully someone may read it and use it as a warning where DNA testing is concerned, and who knows this may prove slightly cathartic.

I’m not prepared to go into specific details but will say DNA testing has the ability to destroy lives and can have devastating consequences.

DNA testing is now constantly advertised on the TV, social media, newspaper everywhere under the glossy banners of Could you be descended from Vikings, Are related to Royalty, Could you be the heir to a £50 million pound estate etc. etc. just spit into this tube and all will be revealed.

Well a word of caution that spit into the tube could tear your family apart, I speak from experience DNA testing actually answered a question regarding a distant great grandfather I had for over a decade, HooRah! I thought…….then the dark side of DNA testing came to light and the consequences have been to almost tear a family apart, whether irreparably only time will tell.

I would urge anyone thinking of taking one of these tests seriously think before you spit into that tube and send of the little box. Are you prepared for the answers and consequences of what you’re about to do……I thought I was and have never been so wrong.

DNA can be a DANGEROUS “toy” to play with and once the DNA genie is out of the bottle, it won’t go back in.

I’m fully aware that 99% of people taking these tests it is just a bit of fun and may even prove useful, but don’t believe all the glossy ads, and brochures please, please be warned it can go horribly wrong.

I may not come back to what I thought was a fun hobby in genealogy for a while, who knows.

BourneGooner

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Unlinked Tree or No Tree
« on: Monday 06 May 19 19:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi all

So So So So frustrating when you go to Ancestry DNA find links and they haven't linked their test to a tree, you get Unlinked Trees or No Trees........

Aaarrrghh!!!!!!! why did you bother doing the test in the first place uploading it to Ancestry if you're not going to link it to any information Aaarrrghh!!!!!!!

Sorry for the rant but it's just so frustrating.

BourneGooner

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The Common Room / Separation order or Divorce
« on: Saturday 27 April 19 14:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi All

Some terminology I'm hoping someone can help me with.

A newspaper article relating to a man who has deserted his wife and family dated 1902 states that "The magistrates made a separation order, giving custody of the children to the applicant"

I now know that the man in question married again a few years later and on the certificate he states he is a bachelor (from a previous posting of mine I know take this to mean "free to marry" thanks to all involved in that one :-)).

My problem is I can't find any evidence of a divorce for him, would the magistrates separation order be the same as divorce proceedings or does this refer to separation from the children, not his wife.

My main reason for asking is if this didn't mean divorce was the second marriage bigamous.

As always any help would be gratefully received.

BourneGooner

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The Common Room / Re: How many times have you had to re-write your tree!!
« on: Tuesday 16 April 19 12:59 BST (UK)  »
Brigidmac, are you saying that a widower could indeed call themselves a bachelor, I've always assumed bachelor meant "never married" although I would still need to find a marriage record for John Lock, but it would help assume they are one and the same.

Guy - Tipp-Ex can you still buy that stuff  :) does make you glad of computers sometimes, amending hand written trees must have been a horrendous task to undertake, not to mention time consuming.

BourneGooner

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