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The Common Room / Re: Greenwich burial
« on: Sunday 25 June 23 18:01 BST (UK)  »
Sorry, I'm not very good at copying to different sites. I hope this is of interest.


LOST HOSPITALS OF LONDON
   
Dreadnought Seamen's Hospital
King William Walk, SE10 9LS
   
   
   
Medical dates:

Medical character:
   1870 - 1986

For merchant seamen
   
   
The Seamen's Hospital Society was founded in 1821 to provide medical care to merchant seamen and their dependents.  The Admiralty allocated a de-masted former naval ship (a 'hulk') to the Society - the 50-gun HMS Grampus, moored at Deptford - for use as a hospital ship.

The accommodation eventually became inadequate and in 1831 the patients were transferred to a larger hulk, the three-decker, 104-gun HMS Dreadnought.  In 1857 they were moved again to the 120-gun HMS Caledonia, which was renamed HMS Dreadnought.

When the infirmary block of the Greenwich Hospital became vacant in 1869, the Admiralty, after much debate, reluctantly agreed to lease the building to the Seamen's Hospital Society for the treatment of merchant seamen.

In 1870 the patients were transferred ashore to the infirmary. which was renamed the Dreadnought Seamen's Hospital.  HMS Dreadnought herself remained in use as an isolation hospital until she was broken up in 1872.

The Dreadnought Seamen's Hospital consisted of 64 small 4-bedded wards with their own fireplaces.  There were 250 patients.

By the end of the 19th century urgent medical cases from Greenwich, Blackheath and Deptford began to be treated at the Hospital.  Injured labourers working on the construction of the Blackwall Tunnel also received emergency care, and the building company, Pearson, later helped to raise funds for the Hospital in acknowledgement of this.

Over the years the building was altered.  Internal walls were removed to create larger wards.  An operating theatre was added in the early 20th century.

In 1929 the Devonport Nurses' Home was erected  across the road from the Hospital building.

During WW2 the Hospital for Tropical Diseases was evacuated to the Hospital, where it had been allocated ten beds.  The building suffered bomb damage in 1940 and 1941 (which was only repaired in the late 1950s).

In 1947 the Hospital for Tropical Diseases moved back to central London.  In 1948 the Dreadnought Seamen's Hospital joined the NHS.  The Ministry of Health wanted the various properties of the Seamen's Hospital Society to be allocated to their appropriate region but, in the event, a Seamen's Hospital Group was set up within the NHS for the treatment of sailors.

The decline in the amount of shipping using the Thames during the latter half of the 20th century meant that fewer seamen used the Hospital.  It closed in 1986 and fell into disrepair.


Present status (January 2008)

The building is now the Dreadnought Library of the University of Greenwich, converted in 1998-1999.  The building needed substantial repair as wet and dry rot had damaged the timber and plasterwork.

Many of the original features of the Hospital have been retained - the ward layout, the staircases in the centre of each wing and the arcaded colonnade linking the main wings.  Attractive ceramic plaques from the former ward walls are displayed in the ground floor corridor; each plaque commemorates an individual or society who contributed £1000 or more to endow a bed or a ward (Annie Zunz has a commemorative plaque here - her husband gifted 34 hospital wards in memory of her name).  The adjacent Stephen Lawrence Building next door also contains some of the plaques.
   
   front elevation
The main entrance of the Dreadnought Library of the University of Greenwich

east side
The southeast corner from Romney Road

ship's bell

wall plaques

wall plaque    west side
The view of the building from King William Walk


west elevation
The northeast corner from the gardens at the rear












The bell from HMS Dreadnought itself can be found in the  nearby National Maritime Museum




The commemorative bed and ward wall plaques can be seen at the Library and in the foyer of the  adjacent  Stephen  Lawrence Building


wall plaque
   
   The 'Dreadnought Unit' - two 28-bedded wards - was established at St Thomas's Hospital in 1986.  The Unit is funded separately by central government and provides special services for seamen and their families.    
   References
www.gresham.ac.uk
www.nmm.ac.uk
www.portcities.org.uk

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The Common Room / Re: Greenwich burial
« on: Sunday 25 June 23 17:55 BST (UK)  »
The seamans hospital at Greenwich was always known as the Dreadnought Seamans Hospital. It was in King William Walk, near to the Maritime Museum and Cutty Sark.

'Greenwich Hospital' was St Alphege's Hospital. Later Greenwich District Hospital and now closed. It was in Vanburgh Hill.

I was born in St Alphage's hospital a very long time ago.

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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry 'New Home Page'
« on: Wednesday 18 May 22 17:50 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Gadget.
I'm glad it's not just me

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The Common Room / Ancestry 'New Home Page'
« on: Wednesday 18 May 22 17:12 BST (UK)  »
I've had a quick look through and I can't see any mention of this subject. Apologies if I've missed something.
A few days ago Ancestry, without any warning, totally changed my Home Page on the Ancestry.co.uk website.
It now contains a load of 'information' which is nothing to do with my family and is of no interest to me.
There is no room, and no way I can find, for me to change it to suit me.

I have just spent 45 minutes looking for a way to complain to Ancestry about this. I finally found a way to communicate with the by email and I've sent a message to them. So far I've received an acknwledgment of receipt saying someone will be in touch.

Has anyone else had this problem and if so, please let me know how you solved it.

Torre

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The Common Room / Re: probatesearch website
« on: Thursday 10 February 22 16:02 GMT (UK)  »
I sent an email this morning and I've just received the following reply.

Thank you for contacting GOV.UK.

Your enquiry has been passed to the HM Courts & Tribunals team who manage the 'Find a will' service.

They will investigate and respond to you directly.

If you have feedback about the service or would like to contact them directly, email:

hmctswills@ironmountain.co.uk

So it looks like I'm on a merry go round! I've already sent two emails to ironmountain, without a reply

I have asked them to send the wills I've paid for to my email address if the site is going to be down indefinitely.

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The Common Room / Re: probatesearch website
« on: Tuesday 08 February 22 15:34 GMT (UK)  »
I sent an email yesterday to both of these addresses

hmctswillsATironmountain.co.uk

contactprobateATjustice.gov.uk

I ordered two wills on 21 Jan 2022 and I received 2 emails on 25 Jan 2022 saying my wills had been delivered and were available to view.  They weren't!

If I get a reply to either of my emails I will post here. But I'm not holding my breath!

But fingers crossed anyway



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The Common Room / Re: Is the name Fanny short for another name
« on: Monday 16 November 20 10:41 GMT (UK)  »
I have a lady in my family tree named Tryphena.

Her baptism record record has her as Tryphena and on her childrens' birth certificates she is Tryphena.

But in all the census records she is Fanny and she is even Fanny on her second marriage certificate and her death certificate.

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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry screen
« on: Sunday 11 October 20 10:16 BST (UK)  »
I had the same problem on Friday and Saturday. No idea why.
I am using Ancestry.com, now and that seems ok.
I hope they're working on it, I prefer .co.uk

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The Common Room / Re: Mary Ann Coomber -Where did she go after 1871
« on: Sunday 15 March 20 16:55 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your interest.

Her father was definitely William Coomber and in various census he is a 'cab driver' and a 'carriageman'
His son charles was also a 'cab driver'

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