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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: How to access Portsmouth St Mary parish registers
« on: Sunday 05 November 23 07:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Bearkat
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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: How to access Portsmouth St Mary parish registers
« on: Saturday 04 November 23 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi both
Yes Portsea, sorry.
Ok thanks for the information I will have a go on FindMyPast, it must have been a decade since I was last a member on there. Is there anything that FindMyPast offers that my usual website, Ancestry, does not provide that will be worthwhile checking out whilst I am there?
Thanks
Yes Portsea, sorry.
Ok thanks for the information I will have a go on FindMyPast, it must have been a decade since I was last a member on there. Is there anything that FindMyPast offers that my usual website, Ancestry, does not provide that will be worthwhile checking out whilst I am there?
Thanks
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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / How to access Portsmouth St Mary parish registers
« on: Saturday 04 November 23 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi I usually like to find the specific entry of a baptism, marriage etc for my records, but in the usual website I cannot seem to locate what I want? I'm guessing the registers for this parish are not available. Does anyone know why?
Thanks
Thanks
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Other Countries / Re: Ancestor from Malta born 1850's
« on: Thursday 14 September 23 13:48 BST (UK) »
Hi All
2 years on from the last post, I'd love to find out more about Mary's parents, Charles and Caroline Ellul of Malta. I have nothing to suggest they ever left Malta so how do I go about locating any details a good start would be their daughter Mary's birth in Malta ?
Or indeed why she was a widow at 20 odd years old?
I'm guessing she was born Maria and her parents were Carlo and Carolina?
Thanks
2 years on from the last post, I'd love to find out more about Mary's parents, Charles and Caroline Ellul of Malta. I have nothing to suggest they ever left Malta so how do I go about locating any details a good start would be their daughter Mary's birth in Malta ?
Or indeed why she was a widow at 20 odd years old?
I'm guessing she was born Maria and her parents were Carlo and Carolina?
Thanks
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London and Middlesex / Re: Help please - bit stuck, Islington birth or censuses
« on: Friday 30 December 22 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Queenie - thank you so much, I see it now! How you were able to suggest this so early on is beyond me, same for John! Ive now gone and found John and Emmas marriage too - great that I don't need to order the cert from GRO. I wonder if the reason she claimed to be a spinster 2nd time around was because not that many people remarried when 'young'? But not sure...maybe another another reason for wanting to divert attention from the previous marriage?
Ill go through some of the census later to see if I can find a James and John in same residence
Many thanks I would never had worked tis all out
Ill go through some of the census later to see if I can find a James and John in same residence
Many thanks I would never had worked tis all out
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London and Middlesex / Re: Help please - bit stuck, Islington birth or censuses
« on: Friday 30 December 22 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you John.
Yes the d.o.b. is good, and if you say the address is the same for Emma/Emily's (next) 1880 marriage then that goes some way to indicate she is the same person! Can I ask - how can some of you have access to data that would only be on the certificate, e.g her address, for me the only way I can reveal this data is to buy the certificate?
The only thing that doesnt stack up is that John Sr. is a Hawker in 1874 but by time of Jon Jr. marrying he is given as a Shoe Maker, but this is plenty of time for someone to change profession.
Many thanks
Yes the d.o.b. is good, and if you say the address is the same for Emma/Emily's (next) 1880 marriage then that goes some way to indicate she is the same person! Can I ask - how can some of you have access to data that would only be on the certificate, e.g her address, for me the only way I can reveal this data is to buy the certificate?
The only thing that doesnt stack up is that John Sr. is a Hawker in 1874 but by time of Jon Jr. marrying he is given as a Shoe Maker, but this is plenty of time for someone to change profession.
Many thanks
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London and Middlesex / Re: Help please - bit stuck, Islington birth or censuses
« on: Friday 30 December 22 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Arthur, a good point.
Meanwhile the GRO have processed the birth cert:
18.7.1874 11:30am city of London lying in hospital
Name:John
Sex:Boy
Father:John Howard
Mother:Emma Howard, formerly Daltery
Profession of Father:Hawker
Signature of Mother: x 7 Swan St, Brick Lane, Bethnal Green
Registered:1.8.1874
Meanwhile the GRO have processed the birth cert:
18.7.1874 11:30am city of London lying in hospital
Name:John
Sex:Boy
Father:John Howard
Mother:Emma Howard, formerly Daltery
Profession of Father:Hawker
Signature of Mother: x 7 Swan St, Brick Lane, Bethnal Green
Registered:1.8.1874
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London and Middlesex / Re: Help please - bit stuck, Islington birth or censuses
« on: Wednesday 28 December 22 17:38 GMT (UK) »
well a St Judes did exist:
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/middx/vol11/pp242-260
St. Jude's C.E. Sec., Old Bethnal Green Rd. Opened by 1846 as Sun. sch. in old chapel. Roll 1846: 109 B, 107 G, financed by incumbent and with 22 vol. teachers. Day sch. for 452 B, G, I and adjoining teachers' ho. in yellow brick built E. of church 1846 with parl. grant and conveyed to Nat. Soc. 1848. (fn. 277) B. sch., a.a. 78, in difficulties and master dismissed for 'gross misbehaviour' 1852. Older children attended only a few days a week. Roll 1858: 100 B, 50 G, 120 I, all supported by vol. contributions. (fn. 278) Roll 1871: 149 B, 110 G, 120 I. (fn. 279) Alterations 1875. Accn. 1878: 144 B, 85 G, 168 I. After 'many years of temp. non-existence', new bldg. opened 1895 (fn. 280) and reorg. for 108 G, 146 I. Accn. 1932: 264 JG & I; a.a. 175. Under Lond. Plan 1947, (fn. 281) reorg. in new bldg. on same site as vol. assisted C.E. Sec. M 1959. (fn. 282) Amalg. with Raine's Foundation 1977 and bldgs. used for lower sch. (fn. 283)
many thanks
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/middx/vol11/pp242-260
St. Jude's C.E. Sec., Old Bethnal Green Rd. Opened by 1846 as Sun. sch. in old chapel. Roll 1846: 109 B, 107 G, financed by incumbent and with 22 vol. teachers. Day sch. for 452 B, G, I and adjoining teachers' ho. in yellow brick built E. of church 1846 with parl. grant and conveyed to Nat. Soc. 1848. (fn. 277) B. sch., a.a. 78, in difficulties and master dismissed for 'gross misbehaviour' 1852. Older children attended only a few days a week. Roll 1858: 100 B, 50 G, 120 I, all supported by vol. contributions. (fn. 278) Roll 1871: 149 B, 110 G, 120 I. (fn. 279) Alterations 1875. Accn. 1878: 144 B, 85 G, 168 I. After 'many years of temp. non-existence', new bldg. opened 1895 (fn. 280) and reorg. for 108 G, 146 I. Accn. 1932: 264 JG & I; a.a. 175. Under Lond. Plan 1947, (fn. 281) reorg. in new bldg. on same site as vol. assisted C.E. Sec. M 1959. (fn. 282) Amalg. with Raine's Foundation 1977 and bldgs. used for lower sch. (fn. 283)
many thanks
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London and Middlesex / Re: Help please - bit stuck, Islington birth or censuses
« on: Wednesday 28 December 22 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you John, got it!
Well well second cousins eh, not my cup of tea but I suppose in that era Victoria and Albert had made it acceptable for 1st cousins to do so. So I wonder what happenned to John Howard senior, what drove his wife to marry her 2nd cousin instead.
Many thanks
Well well second cousins eh, not my cup of tea but I suppose in that era Victoria and Albert had made it acceptable for 1st cousins to do so. So I wonder what happenned to John Howard senior, what drove his wife to marry her 2nd cousin instead.
Many thanks