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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer of Help withCatholic families of the Fylde
« on: Wednesday 18 October 17 00:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi Christine, sorry for the delay.  Following are the households in Garstang parish, from the 1767 Returns of Papists:

Claughton
#527 Oliver Gardner; Servant [in the household of Thomas Leach]; age 14; 1 year resident

#531 Nichs Gardner; Labourer; age 40; 40 year resident
#532 Alice; Wife of Nichs Gardner; age 39; 39 year resident
#533 Elizabeth; age 16; 16 year resident
#534 Mary; age 14; 14 year resident
#535 Michael; age 8; 8 year resident
#536 John; age 4; 4 year resident
#537 Ann; age 2; 2 year resident

#689 William Gardner; Husbandman; age 20; 1 year resident
#690 Alice; his Wife; age 27; 1 year resident
#691 Mary; age 1; 1 year resident

Bilsborrow

#812 John Gardner; Husbandman; age 42; 4 year resident
#813 Margt; his wife; age 45; 2 year resident
#814 Eliz Kitching; age 15; 2 year resident
#815 Margaret Kitching; age 13; 2 year resident
#816 Robt Gardner; age 12; 4 year resident
#817 Hen Kitching; age 8; 2 year resident
#818 Alice Gardner; age 9; 4 year resident
#819 John Gardner; age 7; 4 year resident
#820 Mary Kitching; age 6; 2 year resident
#821 Thos Gardner; age 1; 1 year resident

Let me know if you need anything else.  I included the Kitchings in the last household listed as they appear to be under the same roof and are no doubt Margaret's children from a previous marriage.

Regards,
Phil

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Lancashire / Re: Burial Over Wyresdale lookup request
« on: Thursday 08 June 17 11:37 BST (UK)  »
Ages recorded on marriage licenses were often to establish that the potential bride and groom were of age, so Thomas Bamber's age is given as "aged twenty two years and upwards" and Ann Drinkall's age is given as "aged twenty one years and upwards".  Often, as in this case, the age recorded was nowhere near the actual age.  Are you on ancestry-dot-com?  I have much Bamber and Drinkall maerial there.
Phil

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Lancashire / Re: Burial Over Wyresdale lookup request
« on: Thursday 08 June 17 00:30 BST (UK)  »
Deborah K,
The Thomas Bamber & Ann Drinkall marriage and their ages are legit and have been proven on many levels for many years.  Thomas Bamber 1724-1798 and Ann Drinkall 1751-1810.  Yes she was the daughter of Nicholas Drinkall and Ellen Harrison.  Are you researching the Drinkalls of Over Wyresdale?
Phil

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Sunday 05 March 17 23:57 GMT (UK)  »
Maiden Stone,
I did not find any households with the surname Lamb in the 1767 returns, but here are the Smith households in Garstang.  The first numeric column is the person's age and the second numeric column is years of residence:

Catteral
James Smith  Husbandman  33  8
Margt            his Wife  33  8
Ann     10  10
James  8  8
Thomas  6  6
William  2  2

Claughton
James Smith     Husbandman  84  8
Thos Smith       "               "   60  20
Jane Wife of Thos Smith         56  56
Adam               Husbandman  24  24
Charles              "              "   22  22
George              "              "   20  20
[Jennet Derham  Servant        21  1]



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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Wednesday 01 March 17 00:24 GMT (UK)  »
I'm a little slower to reply during the week  :)  I have been looking through the 1767 returns and so far have only found this Richard Kilshaw:

Chapelry of Caton in Lancaster parish:

Males:  Richard Kilshaw  Years of Age:  72  Occupation:  Husbandman  Years of Residence:  40 Years
Females:  Ellen Kilshaw wife of R.C.  Years of Age:  60  [no additional information]

These are the only Kilshaws listed in Caton.

If I read correctly your husband is descended from John Bains and Mary Kilshaw of Over Wyresdale.  I have John Bains as the son of James Bains and Elizabeth Parkinson.  I have additional information on John Bains' siblings and also some information on the Parkinson line.   Not a lot, but some.  Perhaps you have all of this already, but let me know if it is of interest to you.

I  will see if I can find anymore Richard Kilshaw listings in thr 1767 returns.

Phil

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 17:16 GMT (UK)  »
I see on another will, that of Thomas Threlfall of Fowler Hill, Cabus, yeoman, 1774, that Catherine Kilshaw (described as daughter of Richard), niece, is named as a beneficiary.  The only other beneficiaries are William Smith of Claughton, and Thomas Swarbrick of Nateby (described as nephew).  The 1767 Returns of Papists show Thomas Threlfall, Husbandman, aged 69 resident 40 years of Winmerley.  By the way they also list Rich Blacoe, Husbandman, age 61 20 year resident.

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 14:56 GMT (UK)  »
Catherine Kilshaw was in her own household which also included her 12 year old servant John Wignal. 

I have in my files John Baines and Mary Kilshaw married 29 Jun 1756 at St. Helen's, Garstang.  Their daughter Ann married George Ibison 28 May 1781 at St. Helen's, Garstang.  George Ibison was part of my Bamber family of Wyresdale.

Were Mary and Catherine Kilshaw sisters?

Phil

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 14:17 GMT (UK)  »
Are you connected to the family listed in Wyresdale?  I have strong Wyresdale connections.

Phil

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: an offer
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 13:41 GMT (UK)  »
Marilyn,
I find the following entries in Garstang parish and Wyresdale:

Barnacre with Bonds, Garstang parish
John Baynes     (occupation Miller)  Age 38    Resident 14 years
Mary his wife                                      30                   8
Jane                                                   8                    8
Barnaby                                             5                    5
Richard                                               2                    2
Henry                                                 1                    1
Bartholomew     (Husbandman)             26                  7
John                                                   15                  3
Note:  the above appeared to be in the same household

Winmerley, Garstang
Catherine Kilshaw    (Spinster)              40                 20

Thomas Baynes    (Husbandman)          30                  9
Margaret (wife)                                    24                 24
Thomas                                               6                   6
Ann                                                    4                   4
John                                                   3                   3
Mary                                                   1                  1
Jane (Singlewoman)                             30                 20

Claughton, Garstang
Margt Baynes (widow)                          60                 3

Barnaby Baynes   (husbandman)          60                  15
Alice (his Wife)                                   54                  15
Mary (Spinster)                                  20                  15
Elizabeth                                           18                  15
Thomas                                             15                  15

Claughton, Garstang
John Baynes       (Labourer)                 50                  1
Mary (his Wife)                                   43                  1
Margaret                                            14                  1
Mary                                                  9                   1
Elizabeth                                            6                    1
Ellen                                                  4                    1
James                                                2                    1
Alice                                                  1                    1

Wyresdale, Lancaster parish
Jno Baines     (Farmer)                     40 y 6 m        25 y 7 m
Mary (Wife)                                     35   4            11   2
Ellen                                               8    10            8   10
Ann                                                7     1             7    1
Jane                                                4    4             4    4



Ann                                                     4                  4



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