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Australia / Re: Charles henry briggs.
« on: Today at 09:11 »

Ancestry NSW Police Gazette 6 Jan 1864

..a man named John DAXTER who has been arrested by the Goulburn police charged with having violently assaulted a woman named Hannah BRIGGS......

(for TROVE...this name is probably DEXTER)

Charles Henry BRIGGS is your direct ancestor?

This is marriage for your Charles Henry BRIGGS?

NSW BDM marriage
4052/1876 BRIGGS  Charles Henry   marr.  KENNEWELL  Louisa Sarah   
@ Raymond Terrace

Why is Charles Henry BRIGGS in Raymond Terrace in 1876?.
What names do you see for witnesses?
What occupation for Charles Henry BRIGGS?
What denomination do you see for (church?) marriage?

Australia / Re: Charles henry briggs.
« on: Yesterday at 10:31 »
At your reply #15

"On Charles birth registration in 1858 it states 5 boys and 3 girls living and 1 boy and 1 girl deceased. I can't account for them all."

Are you looking at an image of a hand written document, or a typed transcription?   

The numbers ...3...5...8....can look similar on handwritten records. If you are looking at a transcription it might be the best that the transcriber could manage.  That would make Charles, born 1858, the 11th child of a couple who had been married for 20 years?  Certainly possible.

Most families had a daughter Mary.  You might expect to see Ann/Anne/Annie/Hannah, a daughter named after mother?

Don't be discouraged. We are making good progress. We know there is a son, John, born to Ann after the death of husband Charles BRIGGS, 1858, and before the birth of the BROWN children.

I think the purpose of your original enquiry has been achieved. The Randwick Asylum record is for your Charles BRIGGS, and has led to additional information about Ann BRIGGS and her children.

If pursing this line of enquiry has caused you to reconsider other details on your family tree, see that as a bonus, and I am sure that the forum sleuths here will help you to construct an accurate family tree.

I am thinking that the 1865 birth for George Henry BROWN would be useful to see.

The images of records held by Sydney Benevolent Asylum will be interesting to see when you get them. Are they sending you images of the original records?

Australia / Re: Charles henry briggs.
« on: Yesterday at 07:52 »
Thank you Cass. I did not succeed with browse of Ancestry, but Google history search found it -

I am not sure if I am allowed to link to it here.

Australia / Re: Charles henry briggs.
« on: Yesterday at 06:19 »
MJ ......thank you for your assistance. The Ancestry tree that I saw a few days ago had images of several BDM transcriptions, so would seem to be another one. you, and the other researchers with whom you are working, have a family tree visible to the public eg on Ancestry.

Can you direct me to it.

You do not need a document for every DBM event in the lives of the people you are researching.

Identify a record, and consider why it might be of use to you.  This birth certificate would be useful to you because it is the next recorded event in the life of your Ann, after events at the Sydney Benevolent Asylum and the Randwick Asylum.

It will record previous issue born to this couple.

NSW BDM birth
8691/1865  BROWN George H   parents Simon / Ann F  @  Goulburn

Of the BDM certificates that you have bought, how many do you now consider might be for people other than your family.?  Can you identify them please.

This from you first post -

"Charles was the seventh child, not all still living."

What do you have for the six earlier births?.  What do you have for the death?

Australia / Re: Charles henry briggs.
« on: Yesterday at 03:51 »

I had been looking at an Ancestry  tree for the BRIGGS family which had images of several BDM transcriptions.  I cannot see it now.

Can someone direct me to it please.

Australia / Re: Charles henry briggs.
« on: Tuesday 14 September 21 10:33 BST (UK)  »

Do you see any locations/addresses?

Do you see any ages?

Do you see occupations?

Who signs?....who gives their mark?

Australia / Re: Charles henry briggs.
« on: Tuesday 14 September 21 10:21 BST (UK)  »
Do you see names of witnesses?.

Australia / Re: Charles henry briggs.
« on: Monday 13 September 21 14:34 BST (UK)  »
The Maitland Mercury and Hunter River General Advertiser 6 Nov 1880 p3
IF this should MEET the EYE of JOHN BRIGGS age 19 years, native of Goulburn, NSW will he please send his address to his brother.

Charles Briggs
Nelsons Plains
Raymond Terrace

Australian Town and Country Journal 11 Dec 1880 p5
WANTED, the address of John BRIGGS, a native of Goulburn, 19 years old. Last heard
of living with Dr. DOWE, Tamworth, N.S.W. Anyone knowing his whereabouts please address to his Brother CHARLES BRIGGS, Nelson's Plains, Raymond Terrace.

Australia / Re: Charles henry briggs.
« on: Monday 13 September 21 07:24 BST (UK)  »

Benevolent Asylum....are you looking at an image of original handwritten documents?.  I am surprised that you have been able to receive written information from the Benevolent Asylum so quickly.

Using NSM BDM Index -

can you please identify the marriage of Ann BRIGGS nee SMITH, and George BROWN.

John BRIGGS is recorded with age that gives a birth after the 1858 death of Charles Henry BRIGGS.

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