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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Re: Amelia/Mildred Fulstow, born Killingholme, poss 1811
« on: Thursday 14 October 10 08:11 BST (UK)  »
OK Fully, I tend to agree that Occam's Razor would suggest that the Charlotte on the census in 1841 is the same one born in South Killinghome, and therefore Amelia was nee Cooling.  1841 does have Charlotte aged 1, but there was a tendency to round ages, I understand, so presumably this is the same person.  Will keep in touch if I track down anything more about the family.


Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Re: Amelia/Mildred Fulstow, born Killingholme, poss 1811
« on: Wednesday 13 October 10 08:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi - as you can see, the message did get through.  I'll try the Cooling lead - where did you dig that one up from?

Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: BULL & MOUTH PUB? LEEDS
« on: Wednesday 21 October 09 09:12 BST (UK)  »
In the light of ages, etc., it had to be Robert Mansfield senior who was the pub landlord in 1855.
On FreeBMD, I've found a death of a Robert Mansfield in Newcastle upon Tyne in 1858, which I assume you can tie to the certificate you mention.  Does that give any clue as to where he was born to try and track him in 1841, find his parents, etc.?
Neither FreeBMD nor IGI throw up the Robert & Mary marriage, although they seem to agree that Harriet was born in Woolwich & christened there 21/2/1847, and FreeBMD has Robert junior in Leeds in quarter to March 1849.
From findmypast (for which I don't have a subscription, just prepaid credits which I must admit I'm just using for my own research):
* I can see Robert junior in Woolwich in 1871, 1881 (with mother at 41 King Street) and 1891 (by then in an institution - can't tell exactly which). 
* Can't see Mary after 1881, nor Harriet after 1861.
* 1851 isn't complete, so lack of any of them proves nothing much.
* Whilst there's a couple of Mary Mansfield's born 1811 showing in 1841, they don't seem to be the right one, but there are a few Robert possibilities.
I have to say I can't see any evidence of Robert junior marrying or having children.
FreeBMD has several Harriet Mansfield marriages, but I can't see how to push it any further unless you know her married surname.
Hope this helps a bit in your search.

Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: BULL & MOUTH PUB? LEEDS
« on: Tuesday 20 October 09 10:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dave,
Please look again at the website, which has 3 photos of the Bull & Mouth, & a very brief history. 
Technically, I agree that the pub was on Briggate, rather than Westgate, and I cannot understand why it would have been recorded as being in "Westgate", since the part of Leeds known as "Westgate" is a little bit further away.  However, there was, from the checks I've done on Leodis & other sites, only the one pub of that name in Leeds, even though it had another name earlier and at some later point in the 19th century became the Victoria Hotel.  It was finally bought by Woolworths in the 1930's and demolished to create an extension to their Briggate store, which itself closed as Woolworths in 1987.
So, if you are certain that the pub was in Leeds, this seems to be it.
Best of luck, Phil.

Oh well, it was worth a try - thanks anyway.

Thanks rover,  I'll bear it in mind, although for the Brocklesby line of enquiry to work, she would have had to marry a Fulstow after Thomas Clemment died, or at least to adopt the name of a Fulstow she was living with "as in matrimony" - or "o'er t' brush" as they said in Lancashire, where I grew up!!

Thanks Geoff, that's a couple of avenues to follow anyway.

Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Re: William Knight, born Leicester c.1852
« on: Friday 16 October 09 13:57 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Richard - yes I'd seen James & Elizabeth, but thought I'd read the original record as having them next door to where William lived with the Taylors.   As William was too old to be their son, I'd not thought of following them up - mental block I guess.  Anyway, will try tracking more about Thomas & Margaret.
Thanks also Amber - will send for the copy certificate, but not until after the upcoming postal strike!!

Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Amelia/Mildred Fulstow, born Killingholme, poss 1811
« on: Friday 16 October 09 13:31 BST (UK)  »
Sorry if the above seems vague, but this lady, my 3 times great grandma, is in the 1841 onwards censuses as either Amelia or Mildred, always as born Killingholme, and with varying dates of birth!
DOB could obviously vary if other members of the family spoke to the census taker, but I can't understand about forenames.
However, I'm certain I'm not mixing two people, as even when her forename changes, there is consistency in the other members of the family living with her.
To be honest, I don't even know if she was born a Fulstow or married one.  She got recorded as a widow on the censuses, but then so did her daughter Mary (from whom I'm descended), and I know from lookups other kind people have done that at the birth of each of her sons Mary was in the records as s single woman.
So, if anyone can suggest a resource other than the obvious (I've tried IGI & findmypast). or is willing to do a lookup to try to find Amelia/Mildred's birth and, if it happened, wedding, I'd be very grateful.
Just to add to the fun, Fulstow is often mis-recorded, whether because of illiteracy or pronunciation, quite often as Fulston, though I have seen other variants.  I have even tried the graveyards around Killingholme for Fulstows, with zero success!!

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