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Hi again, everyone,

I have another update on my search for John Kinsman Evans's military records. This past weekend I found an obituary and a death notice for him in different newspapers. They also describe him as a pensioner, and provide a good deal of new-to-me information: According to the obituary, he enlisted when he was about age 15 (he was 'illegitimate' so would not have needed his parents' permission since legally he had no parents) and was in two of the "engagements" of the Peninsular War, the first under "General Graham" and the second under "Marshal Sir Wm. Beresford." It also says that he was shot in the leg while serving and "was invalided on sixpence a day." If he did enlist at about age 15, it would have been around 1811. I know that he was back in Devon by 1821 as he married there then and began baptizing children. I have been going back through the FindMyPast military records definitively ruling out people one-by-one now that I have a lot more information. Does anyone have any further suggestions for what I can try? Would there be likely to be records about him at the National Archives that aren't on FindMyPast to date?

Thank you.

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Fife / Re: HEADSTONES in Kirkcaldy Cemeteries
« on: Monday 29 August 11 14:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi Norrie
Thanks again for looking for Robert Philp for me in Markinch.  Here is my post from this thread from July.  I understand now that you need two names, so while (as I say) it is unlikely that Elizabeth (Dewar) Anderson's husband is buried in Dysart, his name was James Anderson.

Hi Norrie,
I left a message on the Markinch gravestones yesterday too.  I have lots of folks in the Dysart/Pathhead/Sinclairtown area and would appreciate any stones you might have for them and be willing to share.  Here are some of the major ones I am interested in:

Elizabeth (Dewar) Anderson - died 24 Apr 1855 in Sinclairtown/St Clairtown at age 69.  (She was widowed for a while before her death and I believe her husband is likely buried in Edinburgh where they lived before he died)

Robert Anderson - died 21 Apr 1869 in Pathhead at age 57.
Wife Margaret (Deas) Anderson - died 31 Mar 1877 in Pathhead at age 66.

Margaret's parents -
John Deas, died 5 Aug 1871 in Dysart, age 91.
Margaret (Page) Deas, died 27 Sep 1855 in Dysart.

Margaret's twin sister -
Rachel (Deas) Anderson, died 22 Jan 1891 in Dysart, age 80.
Husband John Anderson, died 2 Aug 1855 in Dysart, age 48.

Thanks so much for any help or suggestions you can provide. 

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Fife / Re: Headstones In MARKINCH CEMETERIES
« on: Monday 29 August 11 14:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi Norrie
Sorry it has taken me so long to follow up on this.  Robert and Christina married in Edinburgh.  It is the wrong Robert; he is the son of John Philp and Ann Phelps. 

Thank you for looking for me.  I posted some names on the Kirkcaldy board around the same time.  I'll go back and quote my own post.

never found out what happened to his son Robert Philp whom so far I have only found as a child in the 1841 census.  Could you please check and see whether there are any Robert Philps in your Markinch list?

Hi Straea   no nothing in Markinch but there is this one in Bennochy Cemetery
Kirkcaldy,

330   In Memory of Christina BEATON wife of Robert PHILP
   died 18.3.1906 age 72
   above Robert PHILP died 13.8.1915 age 81
   daughter Margaret died 18.10.1948 age 79

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Hi everyone,

I haven't been on RootsChat in a bit, and thought I would provide an update on my search.  I ordered John Kinsman Evans' death record from the GRO.  I had last found him on the 1851 census but he didn't die till 1873.  The death record did turn out to be him (easier to locate with his full middle name!) and he was living at 1 Old Town in Bideford when he died, his death reported by William Copp, who listed the same address.  I used FindMyPast's census address search to discover that he was living with the Copps in 1871, but listed on the census as John Kinsman.  Both the death record and the 1871 census also list his occupation as "Chelsea pensioner," so I am now about as sure as one can be in genealogy that he really was one.  However, I still have not located his file.  I did use the new records to determine that John's daughter Jane was William Copp's wife.

I had also been unable to locate him on the 1861 census, and I used this new information to determine that he was not living with the Copps then.  A general search for John Kinsman also turned up no candidates.  So I remain unsure where he was in 1861.

Thanks again for all your help on this, everyone.

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Fife / Re: Headstones In MARKINCH CEMETERIES
« on: Saturday 30 July 11 00:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Norrie
Thank you very much for looking and for sharing possible info.  My problem has been that Robert Philp is a fairly common name in Fife and I have yet to  find one that seems likely to be him in 1851.  Since his mother had remarried by then (and didn't have her kids with her) and his brother was working as a servant I thought perhaps Robert had died.  I will check the marriage record of this Robert Philp to see whether it is the correct one. 

Thanks again!

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Just wanted to provide an update.  After looking through the Chelsea pension records again I have still been unable to identify the correct John Evans and am still not sure whether he was really a Chelsea pensioner or not, though in what seems to have been a fairly small parish I'd imagine the census taker probably knew all the residents.  I did easily find Charles Evans' service file though and based on the age he said he was when he was enlisted I believe that it is likely the other Charles Evans from Hartland, who was baptised in 1829 rather than in 1826 as "my" Charles was.  The  Charles who served said he was only 16 when he was enlisted so it would only be my Charles if he lied about his age and I am not sure why someone would lie and say they were a minor if they weren't.  I also realized when I looked back through my small-so-far file on William and Isott (John and Ann's next door neighbors in the censuses) why the surname Buse sounded familiar - according to the transcript it was Isott's maiden name.  I wonder if two brothers married two sisters. 

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Fife / Re: HEADSTONES in Kirkcaldy Cemeteries
« on: Saturday 23 July 11 02:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi Norrie,
I left a message on the Markinch gravestones yesterday too.  I have lots of folks in the Dysart/Pathhead/Sinclairtown area and would appreciate any stones you might have for them and be willing to share.  Here are some of the major ones I am interested in:

Elizabeth (Dewar) Anderson - died 24 Apr 1855 in Sinclairtown/St Clairtown at age 69.  (She was widowed for a while before her death and I believe her husband is likely buried in Edinburgh where they lived before he died)

Robert Anderson - died 21 Apr 1869 in Pathhead at age 57.
Wife Margaret (Deas) Anderson - died 31 Mar 1877 in Pathhead at age 66.

Margaret's parents -
John Deas, died 5 Aug 1871 in Dysart, age 91.
Margaret (Page) Deas, died 27 Sep 1855 in Dysart.

Margaret's twin sister -
Rachel (Deas) Anderson, died 22 Jan 1891 in Dysart, age 80.
Husband John Anderson, died 2 Aug 1855 in Dysart, age 48.

Thanks so much for any help or suggestions you can provide. 

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Annette, I know why you added it, and I thank you again very much for helping me.  I was just saying that if you want to continue discussing on the Devon board instead of this one that would be fine with me.  Since, as I mentioned in my first post, there are several John Evans in the FindMyPast Chelsea pensioners record set that don't have much identifying info, he could already be up there without my knowing it's the right John.  Hopefully the information that you all have found will help me narrow down the possibilities.  Thanks again!

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United States of America / Re: Massachussetts marriage
« on: Friday 22 July 11 14:16 BST (UK)  »
As I said, the link gives me a 404.  This isn't the first time that for some reason a FamilySearch link loads for some and not others though.

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