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Thanks. Harry was a shearer as a young man and then went on to own his own little farm, so I am guessing he was brought up on the farm.

All good

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Yes yes and more yes.
After my last message I went back to the basics and sorted out all the sisters, brothers and cousins, where they were married and to who.  I came up with 2 suspects, a Bessie Hardacre, cousin in England who had dropped off the English radar and Harry's older sister Elizabeth A.  I found the same entry you had for Miss B Hardacre on the Moeraki in 1919. I had also found the marriage and death of Elizabeth, Hannah and Anna can be interchangeable. I think the cousin went to America with her brother.

So when I saw your message this morning, I just cheered, as we both have it. 

Then I went onto Paperspast and found this entry:
Auckland Star, Volume LXX, Issue 50, 1 March 1939, Page 13
CROSSING TOLL.
DOUBLE FATALITY.
FARMER AND HIS WIFE. MOTOR CAR SHATTERED. (By Telegraph.—Press Association.) ASHBURTOX, Tuesday. A double fatality occurred at a level crossing near Fail ton. four miles from Ashburton. this afternoon. The victims were: Martin John Esker, farmer, of Dromore, aged about 5O. Mrs. Bessie Esker, his wife, also aged about 50. Both were killed instantly. The car. an open model, was proceeding over the crossing when it was struck by a special south-bound goods train, which shattered the vehicle. Mr. Esker. who was driving the car, was carried along in the wreckage and was eventually thrown clear about 50 yards from the crossing. Mrs. Esker. who was in the front seat alongside her husband, received the full force of the impact and was thrown clear a few yards further on. Mr. and Mrs. Esker leave three sons, one in Christchurch and two in Ashburton.

This also fits in with the initial family story that Harry's parents had been killed in a railway accident. Bessie and Martin were his "parents" so that fits in nicely.  Harry of course was married by this time in June to Elsie May Morris in South Canterbury.

The other sister, Thelma married in to Robert Frederick Hessell also from Sth Canterbury, so there is a tie in there although Ethel married in 1944 to Bert Tickner in Wellington.

Thanks to everyone and especially jorose for all the information and encouragement to look outside the square.  This is just great to have solved this problem.


Thanks again Rootschatters



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I did think that the girls may not have gone to school and may have been sent to work - they are listed as domestics. Was hoping that Harry aged 9 may have been sent to school.

Thanks everyone for your ideas.

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Spell check, I meant to say, Baker not Barker,  slight difference.

I agree with the comments that Janette and jorose have suggested to me as to why send children away from their home, seems truely bizzare but there must have been a reason. Will relook at family members again just in case there is a family over in NZ that took them in.

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I have researched the Mayer side as well and cant to date find any that came to NZ. From the ship's manifest, Thelma and Ethel are shown by their initials, stating they were born in NZ, which they werent and as domestics, they were only 15 and12. Harry is not listed by name but there is a Mr and Mrs N Barker with a 9 year old boy which I presume is Harry as there are not any other children that age listed.
I have had a search done on the school rolls but no sign of Harry or the girls, not even under Barker. Checked all the Mayer girls and none married Barker. My only hope is for an older sister called Elizabeth A Hardacre born 1894 for whom I cant find an Australian or NZ marriage or even a death. The family have no recollection of what happened during this time. From Australian death records, John William, the father died in 1932 in a mental asylum so there could have been some issues there.
Thanks everyone for the ideas and will just keep looking.
Will keep on hunting anyway.

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Where would I find those records? In Archives possibily ?

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That tree on Ancestry is mine. There are some others but they dont go down to Harry. Thanks

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Thanks. Worth a try

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Children's homes/orphanages in Wellington 1920s
« on: Thursday 12 June 14 08:24 BST (UK)  »
I have one of those brickwalls to break down.
I am looking to find where three children who came to Wellington, NZ in 1922, without their parents, ended up living. Thelma Maude born 1910, Ethel Helen born 1907 and Harry Kenneth Hardacre born 1913 arrived on the Moeraki at Wellington 30 Oct 1922. Their mother, Maude Mary Hardacre nee Mayer had died in 1913 in Wagga NSW, 10 days after Harry's birth. Their father John William Hardacre died in Balmain, Sydney in 1932.  The puzzle is why did they come and who looked after them until they were adults ? Older children were left behind in Australia.
How many childrens homes/orphanages were there in Wellington at that time and if they went there, does anyone know where I can source the records.
no family stories have been passed on, so may have been a very traumatic time for all three children.

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