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World War One / Re: Location of a soldier Jan/Feb 1916
« on: Monday 11 March 24 15:35 GMT (UK)  »
Are getting the information from Baptism records    CORRECTED DATE
St Columba Liverpool

Ruth bap 6 December 1916 parents Wallis Darlington and Matilda - father Soldier address 53 Great Orford Street Liverpool (reg 1st quarter 1917)

Rupert bap 6 December 1916 same parents and address (he was not reg until next quarter)

Need the actual birth certificate £1.50 if you can get a PDF copy.

Fascinating, no idea the twins were baptised in Liverpool soon after their births. The father of Matilda (Adams) Darlington died on 29 December in Dublin so I assumed Matilda came home for his funeral as the twins were baptised in her local COI church St Judes Inchicore Dublin. Have record of the baptisms and the later baptisms in 1920 when the twins were "adopted" by the couple who I and my family assumed were the biological parents. That is until 20 years after mother died we discovered she was   "adopted". However no adoption in Ireland until 1952and  this alone is why the story of the twins turned into a saga that took me 23 years to unravel, thanks to Ancestry DNA

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World War One / Location of a soldier Jan/Feb 1916
« on: Sunday 10 March 24 19:34 GMT (UK)  »
Mother and twin brother were born November 1916 in Liverpool. Birth cert said parents were Wallis and Matilda (Adams) Darlington long journey and long story but Wallis was not the father of the twins. Now know Wallis was in Gallipoli in August 1915 (He survived the war) but would like to know where he was located in Jan/Feb 1916 when the twins were conceived. Grateful for any help

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Limerick / Limerick baptism 1859 Stein/Sproule
« on: Sunday 10 March 24 19:26 GMT (UK)  »
Understand a John Stein and Mary Sproule were the parents of a child baptised in St Marys Cathedral in 1859. Have I any hope of getting confirmation of this baptism ?

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Dublin / Re: Old photo of house in Cork Street Dublin 8
« on: Sunday 10 March 24 19:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Heywood

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Dublin / Old photo of house in Cork Street Dublin 8
« on: Wednesday 06 March 24 20:02 GMT (UK)  »
26 Cork Street was a tenement but long gone and now modern building in its place. Grandfather and his 9 siblings were born and raised in the tenement and getting a photo of it has been a struggle for years. Chancing my arm that somebody on this site just might have an aerial photo of the Cork Street area pre 1960 or might know how to source one. One never knows luck

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The Common Room / Re: Tracing Uncle who went missing in 1942 or 1943
« on: Thursday 02 January 20 23:27 GMT (UK)  »
Have you looked at Wills for the various name variants?

Have bad habit of dismissing Wills as part of overall family tree research. Probably its part of fixed notion only people with real money need to leave Wills. Bad mistake and add idea to list I am making for another onslaught in finding Uncle

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The Common Room / Re: Tracing Uncle who went missing in 1942 or 1943
« on: Thursday 02 January 20 23:23 GMT (UK)  »
Have you considered writing to a suitable local newspaper appealing for information?  I have done that in the past and received a few responses.

May be worth a try perhaps?   ::)

 Good idea, will have a go at that. There was a belief in family that when Uncle emigrated it was to Birmingham. Strangely, only 2/3 months ago hints are gathered, friend of mind I rarely see mentioned his mother, great life-long friend of my mother, had told him that Uncle Jack had emigrated with a next door called Sherwood. Have traced the Sherwood and found they had 3 sons, one I know did not emigrate and struggling at present to find descendants of the family. moral of the story, simply never give up

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The Common Room / Re: Tracing Uncle who went missing in 1942 or 1943
« on: Tuesday 31 December 19 12:10 GMT (UK)  »
Just checked my profile and it was November 2009 when I discovered this great site. At that stage I was through 15 frustrating years searching limited sources available to solve mystery that opened in 1994 when we discovered mother and her twin brother were "adopted". This was 20 years after mother had passed away. I had no interest in family tree until this mystery opened but a month after I found this site the Irish Government did a remarkable thing, they made available a terrific source online, the Censuses for 1901 and 1911. People familiar with the site will agree its exceptional and even freakish, its free of charge ! This meant I took a great interest in family tree research and then I think it was 2016 the Government made available FOC images of BMD certs covering certain periods. I became totally hooked on family tree but still getting nowhere on tracing the twins true origins. In the year 2011 it all began to happen, have 20000 words on my first draft of the journey since the mystery opened in 1994 but will just mention important dates. Would love to say hard work and brilliant research aided by sites like this solved my mysteries but really it was all luck.

In 2011 I learnt there was an attic in family home I never knew about. wasn't there when I left to get married moons ago. In a dusty box I found a birth cert for the Uncle and a baptism cert for the twins second baptism.

In 2013 browsing the BMD records of the church where first baptism happened, these are ledgers not digitised as yet, I paused for a moment going through the baptism ledger and out of corner of eye I spotted the name Ruth and thought "Oh some with same first name as mother was baptised here"  Looked at next entry and it was the name Rupert, nearly had a heart attack on the spot. The parents name were given as Matilda and Patrick Walsh. This was all happening in moments and I went from joy to sick. Then looked across page and the address given was the birth address in Liverpool. Remember I am looking at records of a church in Dublin.

In 2016 we were at an Over 50's  show here in Dublin that had a few genealogy stands including Ancestry and My Heritage. Never looked seriously at DNA but as someone who loves a discount I bought a kit from Ancestry who had special offer. Got a couple of matches months later but in August 2017 I struck gold. A name I knew nothing about turned out to be a 1st cousin with the same grandfather, one Patrick Walsh.

The rest is history as they say. Now have 4 biological grandparents and Patrick Walsh after his twins married someone else and produced 10 more children. Two of those children are still alive so I have half aunt and half uncle, also have 45 1st cousins.

Its a rags to riches genealogy story and my fellow enthusiasts here will understand why I am trying to put the story in book form to explain it all to myself. The only weakness left is finding what happened in the life of my Uncle Rupert Darlington/Jack Derwin/Adams/Walsh. When I applied for State Pension here in Ireland they had every detail of my employment record from time I began work. The Irish State Pensions Dept say they have no record of Jack and I have to believe them, not fully I hasten to add. The UK State Pensions say Data Protection rules prevent them helping out.

Sorry about being long-winded but had to explain a bit more in the hope someone on this site just might make the right suggestion and help me close the last brick wall in my family tree journey.


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The Common Room / Re: Tracing Uncle who went missing in 1942 or 1943
« on: Tuesday 31 December 19 11:22 GMT (UK)  »
A Wallis Darlington and Matilda Adams married  in Dublin in 1908. By 1911, they were in Tyrconnell Street, Dublin with a daughter, Charlotte. Religion noted as Church of Ireland. Matilda from Limerick.  A Charlotte Darlington, aged 1yr also died in Dublin in 1911.

Wallis, birth year 1884, is potentially the chap of same name/age who died in Dublin in 1945 (perhaps a reason for Rupert/John returning to Dublin?).

A Matilda Darlington, of same approx age as the 1911 census Matilda, died in Dublin in 1957.

Who were Matilda and Patrick Walsh? Were Ruth and Rupert baptised with the Walsh surname?

They were baptised in Dublin on 10 January 1917 and parents were named as Matilda and Patrick Walsh. Address on birth and baptism certs was 53 Great Orford Street, Liverpool. Baptism was in a Protestant church

Could Rupert/John have used the Walsh surname?

Have you ruled out the John Derwin marriage in Dublin in 1949?
That was another moment of excitement but went nowhere to my great disappointment

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