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The Common Room / Edith Mary Howell
« on: Saturday 01 August 20 07:17 BST (UK)  »
This query could be on about three boards so I have posted it here.

Edith Mary Howell was born the daughter of William and Betsy Howell in Netheravon, Wiltshire in the March quarter of 1892. Pewsey Registration District.
Unlike her brothers and sisters I cannot find her baptism in Netheravon or anywhere else.

c1893 the family moved to Kings Somborne in Hampshire where the rest of the family were born. This is the Stockbridge Registration District. The first to be registered there was her brother George in 1894.

She can be found in the 1901 census with the family in Kings Somborne.

In the 1911 census she was working as a parlour maid in Hampstead in London

Now it gets unclear. I went looking for a marriage for Edith Mary Howell. There were quite a few Edith M Howell’s all over the country.

In 1919 I found a marriage for Edith M Howell in the Edmonton Registration District in the March quarter which includes Hampstead. Of course in the eight intervening years she could have got another job and been working elsewhere. I cannot find her. This marriage was according to Free BMD to William S Holland.

However family search gives another story.
They have a civil marriage of Edith E Howell in the March quarter of 1919 to a William S Holland in the Edmonton Registration District.

Free BMD gives a marriage of an Edith E Howell to Walter Tucker in the September quarter of 1919 in Paddington.

I found William Sydney Holland’s Army papers saying he married an Edith Emma Howell. So it would seem that family search is correct in the name of Edith E.

There does not seem to be a parish marriage record to help out giving Edith Mary's father’s name. Or which marriage, The 1939 register does not seem to help.

There is an Edith and William Holland in 1925 Electoral Rolls at 10 Crowndale Road, St Pancras.  Does not say M or E.
An Edith and Walter Tucker did not appear in the 1925 Electoral Rolls anywhere as I can see.

I could not find anything different in the other rolls.

Of course I could equally be barking up the wrong tree and she stayed single or married someone else I have not managed to find!!

Can anyone help pinpoint Edith Mary Howell’s marriage please. This is not a direct line so as a pensioner I do not send for certificates on spec as it were. Edith M Howell is a very popular name.

Wish she had got married in her parent’s parish of Kings Somborne, they were still alive. Oh well!!


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Census and Resource Discussion / Jem Collins Fremantle 1939 Register
« on: Thursday 23 July 20 08:06 BST (UK)  »
Jem Collins Freemantle was born according to GRO Indexes in the June quarter of 1873, but the 1939 register gives his birthdate as 24 Feb 1875. There is a notation at the side of the entry that seems to refer to a National Health Service event. Can anyone tell me what the notation means please. I tried to attach a copy but as it was a snip from the 1939 register from the column at the side that is used for comments. it would not let me. As far as I can see it says NHS/a/Run 77 018. The a could be a d. It is likely a change of birth date for the National Health Service when it took over the register, but not sure.

I know a bit about him. I think he may have been the son of Samuel Freemantle and Caroline Brown if he was born in 1873.  GRO Indexes do not give a Jem Collins Freemantle born in 1875.

He does not appear in the 1881 census as far as I can see, so he is never with his birth parents. By 1891 he is working at the Eastman Naval Academy in Titchfield as a footman aged 18, so 1873 is correct there.

He married Agnes Howell in 1906. That was in the Stockbridge Registration District so probably her home village of Kings Somborne. She too had been working with the same family and business as a servant.

In the 1911 census they are apart. Agnes is with the employing family in London and Jem in Crawley in Hampshire where the Academy then was. It is of course probable that the family had gone up to their London home for a little while,

There appears to be only one child, a son born in 1915.

Jem Freemantle was in WWi in the Hampshire Regt during WWI and deservedly won the DCM. It is likely he was among the burnt records as I can only find his medal card.

They died in 1953 and 1958.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Identification of person in photo please
« on: Monday 06 July 20 01:32 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone help me identify the man in this photo please. I am sure he is a British TV personality, I know his face but cannot put a name to him. I am pretty certain the person has passed away. Photo date is probably 1965/70. The photo has a connection for a late member of the family. My thanks.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Longstock and Leckford Schools
« on: Thursday 25 June 20 04:15 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone tell me the dates of Longstock and Leckford schools please? I think Longstock closed in the middle of the 1920's so where did children go then? I think Leckford may have closed as well.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Probably Winifred and George Howell Can anyone date this photo please
« on: Wednesday 24 June 20 02:50 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone date the attached photo please? It is believed to be of Winifred and George Howell.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / The old Longparish School
« on: Wednesday 27 May 20 08:22 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone have a photo please of the old Longparish School before it was knocked down in the 1950's please? My husband and I went there during and after WWII. We have very fond memories. It was built of stone like St Nicholas Church next door. The arched windows were large but high up and one could not see out, but they gave good light.

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Technical Help / Microsoft Home and Business 2019
« on: Tuesday 31 March 20 09:16 BST (UK)  »
I have downloanded Microsoft Home and Business 2019 today. I do not like it much. It is not a complete stand alone program. One thing that seriously annoys me is that when I want to create a document I first have to sign in to One Drive with my hotmail address. Hotmail is Microsoft and I feel they are following me. They do love collecting data so much.

I do not like One Drive in the first place. I like everything on my computer backed up by my external drive. I have no use for seeing documents in other places or on other machines.

It also feels that Microsoft are looking over my shoulder with my hotmail address. Supposed to be safe but....... I really dislike it.

Is there any way I can use this program without One Drive. I would cheerfully uninstall it.

Can anyone help me please?

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South Africa / John Stanley Adams b 1907 Suffolk
« on: Saturday 07 March 20 08:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Friends

John Stanley Adams was my uncle by marriage's younger brother. We called him Uncle John, we did not know him very well but we liked him.

John Stanley Adams was born in 1907 the youngest of three sons to Alfred William Adams and Emily Clara Gunn in Woodbridge Suffolk in the March quarter of 1907. He can be found in the 1911 census living with the family still in Woodbridge.

Their mother died in 1914 when they were young. their father before 1928 I think. So the family spread out. In 1939 the eldest brother was still living in Suffolk, my uncle was the second son and he and my aunt were living in Gloucestershire. Uncle John may or may not be the John S Adams living with his wife, Nellie, in Romford in Essex.

My query:

When my brother and I were staying with my aunt and uncle in Coventry in the early 1950's Uncle John came to see his brother. We went into another room as the brothers wished to talk alone. My aunt told us afterwards that Uncle John was going to South Africa.

My husband and I live these days in Australia and once on a visit pre 1979 I asked my aunt what had happened to Uncle John. She said he had died. My aunt did not give me further information and her husband had died as well as his brother so no further information there.

I have never been able to find Uncle John on any passenger list to South Africa and I am wondering if someone can help please. I have no idea where he settled. He was probably a metal worker.

It would be nice to know what happened to him.

Best wishes










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Lincolnshire / My Great Great Grandmother died when she was six months old
« on: Tuesday 16 July 19 06:34 BST (UK)  »
Well I thought she was my Great Great Grandmother. Back in the days of Windows 95 c 2000 all we had was the wonderful LDS and what a treasure trove that was to all of us. Sadly the LDS did not normally show burials then.

Now I am re checking everything in preparation for writing it all up. and WHOOPS!

My Great Great Grandmother I thought was Ann Balmborough who was the daughter of John Balmborough and Ann Ormond. I understood she was born on 23rd December 1793 and baptised on 9th February 1794 at Melton Mowbray. Now one of all those new records we have now shows there was a burial for an Ann Balmborough on 2 July 1794 at Melton Mowbray.

John Balmborough and Ann Ormond had 14 children so now I am wondering if there was a fifteenth. These children were all born between 1788 and 1801, half in Melton Mowbray and half in Grantham, Lincolnshire. The Ann who was born in 1793 was the last of the Melton Mowbray ones.

Thomas Balmborough was the eldest born in Grantham and he was born on 19th April 1795, so there is time for another Ann to be born between them but I cannot find one at all. Births were a yearly event but sadly so many of them died. They must have moved to Grantham between July 1794 and April 1795.

Well I did wonder if they were two different families but they lost Vincent the youngest and he was taken back to Melton Mowbray so I would say they were the same family. He was the only one of the Grantham babies lost that was buried there, perhaps he died when they were visiting.

The names Balmborough and Ormond go down the family as second names so I have little doubt I have the right family.

I realise that this is the Lincolnshire page, but if there was another Ann it is likely she was born in Grantham.

Can anyone wonderful person find her for me please. My grateful thanks.


 

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