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I'm trying to find the names of the clergy in the C of E church in Gilling, Yorkshire particularly in the period 1750 to 1800 and the years that John Hall may have been there.

I'm aware of the Clergy Database and am questioning the accuracy of the data there. I have conflicting information for John Hall of Chew Magna, Somerset. The Clergy database says that he came from Hereford via Hope Mansell. Newspapers at the time say he came from Gilling, Yorkshire. If he came from Hereford to Chew Magna how did he end up marrying a lady from Brignall in Yorkshire, not far from Gilling!

There is not much info for John Hall of Gilling in the Clergy Database.

Having traced someone to their 1960 death, knowing there were two children, I am trying to find records that might help with their possible time spent in Hampshire, specifically in New Milton and New Forest, and to see if relatives still live there today.

Are there voters lists or similar that show names post 1920 to the present day?
Are there property records that identify owners?
Anything else?

I have two addresses and wonder if the residents there today are related and if not when the people I'm interested left.

I know this is the Carmarthenshire forum, but I see that a potential relative might have been baptised in Henllan Amgoed, Carmarthen, Wales (Rachell JAMES 18 SEP 1819), and the district is show as Lampeter.

My Rachell appears in the Tenby records, supposedly born in Pembrokeshire (1841 census), in Lampeter Velfry (1851 census). Her age could put her birth between 1819 and 1821. Her father's name is James JAMES, identified at the 1842 wedding of Rachell but not a witness. I cannot find James in Lampeter Velfrey in 1841 (or anywhere else that looks like a match).

I'm now wondering if she was from the Lampeter district and therefore possibly from Carmarthenshire. Given that the census so often has English names for towns could the 'Velfry' be a mistake, an assumption.

The Rachell born in Henllan Amgoed has parents James and Mary. Does someone else have this person with a known history that disproves my thoughts?

I'd be interested in the experience of other people, have confusions arisen, have the county borders changed the situation, did people travel to the nearest church which happened to be in the next county, or whatever?

I've hit a wall trying to trace the family of Philip Walter MORGAN, born 1884 in Cardiff, who lived in Cardiff with parents David and Mary Ann MORGAN (of Merthyr Tydfil) and brother Arthur John MORGAN. David MORGAN worked on the railways and lived in Harriett St, in the Cathay area.

Philip married Annie Rachel BROWN (b 1886 Tenby) in Cardiff in 1910, and shortly after went to Hayfield Derbs. (1911) and Burnley Lancs. A daughter Josephine Mary was born in Hayfield in 1911, and a son David in Burnley in 1915. Philip served in France in WW1 and died in 1921. His family were still living near Burnley, in Worsthorne, in 1922.

I am guessing that the family might have returned to Cardiff/Wales as there were no other obvious relatives in Lancashire, Philip's family and Annie's brother were all in Cardiff. That's also why I'm posting on the Welsh site. I cannot find any of them in later marriage or death data.

Arthur John MORGAN married Beatrice SCAMMELL of Frome, Somerset, and had 4 children. There is a tree on Ancestry for these but I've been unable to make contact with the owner.

While there are a couple of people with middle initials that match I'm not prepared to send for certificates on that slender evidence, so will leave this post in case anyone linked to these people searches here.

A death of Annie R MORGAN in Brecknock in 1Q 1934 is of interest but I cannot find more details.
Annie is on my direct line and is my great aunt.

Farleigh Castle is just over the border in Somerset but at one time the Hungerfords owned lands for a great distance thereabouts, and the Farleigh property extended across Trowbridge. Sir Edward HUNGERFORD (the spendthrift) owned the castle til 1686 when it was sold to the Bayntun family.

I have information from 200 years later that says the great grandmother of Miss BUTLER (Mary Ann BUTLER of Frome, 1788- 1853) 'lived at Farley Castle and owned a vast estate' which included most of Trowbridge.

What I have not been able to do is establish the link between the HUNGERFORD family and the BUTLER family, assuming that is the correct relationship.

Sir Edward's 3rd wife, Jane DIGBY, died in either 1692 or 1703. She was probably referred to as Lady HUNGERFORD, and the last of the line that owned the castle. There were children, but no evidence that I can find of their names, other than another Edward, or who they married.
Going backwards with the BUTLER family I suspect William BUTLER and Elizabeth FRICKER were the grandparents, they married in Bath in 1745, so these were born about 1710-1725. One of them could be the offspring of a daughter of Lady Jane!
Sir Edward had a daughter Jane by his first wife, who married James BLAKE in 1697. Again I would be wondering about their children.

Any ideas or recommendations will be appreciated.