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United States of America / Howard Malcolm JENKINS (1842-1902) Family of Gwynedd, Montgomery Co, PA
« on: Thursday 01 July 21 15:57 BST (UK)  »
Hello to all descendants of Howard Malcolm JENKINS,

I have possession of an enlarged photo taken of the Inn at Buck Hill Falls, in 1901.
 
If anyone knows any information about the original photo, PLEASE reply.

I'm aware that Howard and two of his sons went to Buck Hill in 1900 and negotiated a sale of the
Pocono Mountain property with Samuel E. Griscom.  They settled on 31 Dec 1900 and a 20-room Inn was built in less than 6 months, opening on Saturday the 22nd of June 1901.
His eldest son, Charles, was appointed President of the Buck Hill Falls Company and served until his death in 1951.

There is a gentleman on the porch and three children sitting on the steps in the photo.
My mission is to find out WHO those people are, WHO took the photo, and WHEN.

I can forward a picture of the photo thru private message for comparison to any old family pictures.

Thank you so much for your attention,
Rick T.

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Derry (Londonderry) / All Things DOWNING/DOWNEY in County Derry
« on: Monday 08 March 21 16:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hello to all who may have interest in the DOWNING and DOWNEY surnames of County Londonderry,

I started this topic as a "catch all" forum for anyone who may have DOWNING/DOWNEY family history to share and hopefully, answers to your questions.

Please feel free to post away.  Together, maybe we can solve some of our lingering mysteries.

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Ireland / William DOWNING of Co. Derry (b.c.1765); Part 1 of 2
« on: Monday 21 January 19 21:32 GMT (UK)  »
I'm searching for any info on William DOWNING of County Derry (Londonderry).  He was likely born about 1765 (give or take a few years).

The DOWNING (Downinge) stronghold in County Derry during the 18th century appears to be the area including the Townlands of Drumard, Rocktown, Dreenan, Lemnaroy, Cabragh, Broagh, and other parts of Maghera, Bellaghy, and Castledawson.
We have identified two distinct branches; one headed by Col. Adam Downing of Rocktown, and another headed by Stafford Downing of Dreenan, finding no link between the two (yet).
WILLIAM is claimed to be descended from Adam, but it's possible he was connected to the Dreenan branch.

Working back in time, here is what we know:
1. William's son, James (my 3rd great grandfather, 1800-1875), had an older brother, William Colwell Downing, b. 1792 or 1793, d. 7 Jul 1868, aged 75.
William C. is buried at St Luke's Church of Ireland, Tamlaght Parish, just across the River Ballinderry from the village of Coagh, Co Tyrone.
He is listed in Slater's Directory of Ireland, 1846, as a "Linen  Manufacturer" of Coagh.

William (supposedly) died in 1803, leaving a wife and two young sons.  His wife, Jane Colwell (?), then married a second husband, Felix Devlin, who is also listed in Slater's Directory, 1846, as a "turner-in-wood".
We believe Jane may have moved closer to her family in Moneymore for support after William died, then met and married Felix.
NOTE: Maghera Parish is located about 12 miles north of Coagh.

2. There were several members of the DOWNING family engaged in farming during that period, specifically growing flax.
The Flax Grower's List for Londonderry, 1796, includes:
Downing, Dawson of Ballyscullion
Downing, James of Termoneeny
Downing, Samuel of Termoneeny
Downing, Daniel of Maghera
Downing, George of Maghera
Downing, John of Maghera
Downing, Stafford of Maghera, and
Downing, WILLIAM of Maghera - who may be my 4th great grandfather

Flax is used to make linen.  Although WILLIAM (supposedly) died when William C. was only about 10 years old, he may have had some early training in that industry.
If WILLIAM, the Flax Grower, was my 4th great grandfather, his family was obviously in Maghera Parish in 1796, thereby formulating the theory that Jane moved after he died,
and that William was likely buried somewhere in Maghera or Termoneeny Parish.

I personally surveyed 18 graveyards in the area during my visit in May 2018, but as you may know, headstones before about 1850 are very difficult to read, and church records in Ireland were mostly destroyed in the 1922 fire at the Four Courts Building in Dublin.
The PRONI Office in Belfast was of not much help either.

Please continue with Part 2 of 2



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Norfolk / ARTHUR DOWNING of Lexham (1543-1606)
« on: Sunday 13 August 17 17:50 BST (UK)  »
I'm searching for any living descendant of ARTHUR DOWNING of Lexham, Norfolk who might have information on his descendants, or some of his "branches".

The data below is compiled from Family Search:

1. John Downinge, son of Arthur Downinge, bap. 1 Jan 1578 at Saint Bartholomew, Chichester, Sussex                           
2. Grissell Downing, dau. of Arthure Downing, bap. 12 Jun 1580 at Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk                           
3. Margaret Downinge, dau. of Arthur Downinge, bap. 10 Jun 1581 at Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk                           
4. Edmund Downinge, son of Arthure Downinge, bap.  13 Jun 1581 at Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk                           
5. George Downeinge, son of Arthure Downeinge, bap. 3 May 1584 at Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk                           
6. Arthure Downinge, son of Arthure Downinge, bap. 20 Apr 1585 at Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk                           
7. Robert Downeinge, son of Arthure Downeinge, bap. 29 May 1586 at Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk                           
8. Wingfilde Downeynge, son of Arthure Downeynge, bap. 17 Apr 1587 at Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk                           
9. Francis Downinge, son of Arthure Downinge, bap. 3 Nov 1588 at Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk                           
10 Ellen Downeinge, dau. of Arthure Downeinge, bap. 2 Nov 1589 at Weasenham All Saints, Norfolk                           

All spellings are as shown in the record.

Additionally, we know that ARTHUR DOWNING(e) was the son of Geoffrey (Jefferry) Downing(e) of Poles Belcham, Essex, or present day Belchamp St Paul.
1. Elyzabeth Downinge, dau. of Jefferry Downinge, bap. 18 Aug 1538 at Belchamp St Paul, Essex
2. Arthur Downinge, son of Jefferry Downinge, bap. 10 May 1543 at Belchamp St Paul, Essex
3. Katherin Downinge, dau. of Jefferry Downinge, bap. 20 Jun 1546 at Belchamp St Paul, Essex

And that ARTHUR married Susan Calybut, dau. & Co-heiress of John Calybut of Castle Acre, Norfolk, 22 Nov 1570
(from: Clare, Suffolk Parish Register FL 501/4/1)
Lexham is just over 2 miles east of Castle Acre and less than 3 miles south of Weasenham.

ARTHUR DOWNING(e) was granted arms in 1576 and appears in the Visitations of Norfolk 1563 and 1589 having the exact same family group in BOTH visitations, as such:
Arthur, his wife Susan, and their children, John, Dorothy, Anne, and Susan.
Susan Calybut was born in 1552 or 1553 and would have been just 10 or 11 years old in 1563, making it impossible for her to have had four children by then.
But we can assume that these were Arthur's four eldest children, even if his family was recorded by the College of Arms at the time he was granted arms, and the data was retroactively added to the 1563 visitations, the only one existing for Norfolk at the time.
Then, when the 1589 visitations were recorded, the College of Arms simply duplicated Arthur's data, despite his family having grown considerably since 1576.

If you look at the list above, I would speculate that 'John' (No. 1) does NOT belong to the same family group.  Arthur already had a son named 'John', who was likely born about 1571, in order to leave enough time for his three sisters to be born before 1576.  But we know that the fifth child was named 'Calybutt' because he is included in the 1613 Visitations of Norfolk along with his four older siblings.  Yet Arthur apparently had eight, of his nine, other children by the time the 1589 visitations were undertaken.

My own branch supposedly connects to 'John', b. abt 1571, but we have some work to do to "prove" the connection, which opens the possibility that my branch connects to one of his siblings.
So, the project at hand is to identify as many descendants of Arthur as possible and fit the pieces together.
Any information you may have could be a key puzzle piece.
I have a lot of data we would be happy to share.


Thank you for taking the time to read my post,
Rick

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Tyrone / Presbyterian Church on Urbal Rd, COAGH
« on: Monday 01 May 17 21:00 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone have any information on whether there is a link to the names in the cemetery at the Presbyterian Church of Coagh, County Tyrone, or to find out if there is such a list ?

I am searching for a 'WILLIAM DOWNING', d. abt. 1803, and very likely buried in that graveyard.
I know there was a 'William Downing' listed in Slater's Directory of Ireland 1846, who we suspect may have been the son of 'William', d. 1803.

I have much data on Downings of County Derry to share with parties of interest.
Thank you for reading,
Rick T

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Derry (Londonderry) / GEORGE DOWNING, b. abt 1640, Comptroller of Customs for The Irish Society
« on: Monday 01 May 17 20:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

Does anyone have any information on GEORGE DOWNING, Comptroller of Customs for The Irish Society. 
He was likely born about 1640 (give or take 5 years), and may have been the son of George Downing of Ballykelly, but then migrated to Maghera.

We suspect he may have married a JANE MONTGOMERY, dau. of Maj. Hugh Montgomery of Maghera, in or about the year 1665, and that these were the parents of the illustrious Col. Adam Downing of Rocktown.

Looking for proof of the Downing/Montgomery marriage and birth records of ANY of their children, or a Will that mentions his children.

I have much data to share with interested parties.

Thank you for reading,
Rick T

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Derry (Londonderry) / GEORGE DOWNING of Ballykelly, tenant of Fishmonger's Proportion 1628-1659
« on: Monday 01 May 17 20:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

Does anyone have any information on GEORGE DOWNING (Downinge) of Ballykelly, County Derry.
I know there is a 'George Downing' listed:
1. as High Sheriff of Londonderry in 1623, 1625, and 1626
2. on the Rent Rolls of Londonderry taken 15 May 1628
3. as a principal tenant of the Fishmonger's Proportion on or before 1631
4. on a 1659 census report as "of Ballykelly"

What I am trying to find is a marriage record or any mention of his children, either by birth records or mention in a Will.

We suspect he may have had a son named George and that he may have been the son of Lt. John Downing, who fought under Lord Mountjoy at the Battle of Kinsale in 1601/2, possibly serving in Marshal Sir Richard Wingfield's cavalry.

I have much to share with interested parties.

Thank you for reading,
Rick T

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Derry (Londonderry) / JANE MONTGOMERY, dau. of Maj. Hugh Montgomery of Maghera, b. abt. 1645
« on: Tuesday 18 April 17 21:14 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone have a 'JANE MONTGOMERY' of that era in their family tree ?

I have a lot of data I'm willing to share.
Please reply and thank you for reading.

Rick T.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Maj. Hugh MONTGOMERY of Maghera, County Derry, 1650
« on: Friday 07 April 17 14:39 BST (UK)  »
Calling all Montgomerys:  Does anyone have any information at all about these Montgomerys of northern Ireland ?  (see list)

They came over to Ireland in the early 1600's from Scotland with the aid of Hugh Montgomery, 1st Viscount Montgomery, who granted lands known as Gransheogh in the parish of Donaghadee, County Down, to Hugh Montgomery, a cousin, in 1628.

Gen 1. Hugh Montgomery of Gransheough, cousin of the 1st Viscount, migrated to Maghera, County Derry and represented the Borough of Newtownards in Parliament from 1635-1641.
He had two sons, Hugh and John.

Gen 2. (Maj.) Hugh Montgomery, the eldest son married a daughter of Robert McClelland.
They had "several daughters" and one son, William.

Gen 3. William Montgomery, son of Maj. Hugh, married Mary Magill, daughter of Capt. James Magill.
They had one daughter, Lucy, who died young, and one son William.

Gen 4. (Capt.) William Montgomery of Greyabbey, Gransheough, son of William, married (1st) Catherine Hall on 22 Sep 1719.
On the proposal of marriage, his prospective mother-in-law, Francis Hall, requested a Statement of the Value of his Property at Gransheough, which he furnished, revealing an £800 debt to Col. Adam Downing.
Capt. William Montgomery died on 17 Apr 1755.

Of the "several daughters" of Maj. Hugh Montgomery, I suspect William may have had a sister named "Jane".  I am searching for some proof of the identity of JANE MONTGOMERY and whether she may have married GEORGE DOWNING, Adam's father (perhaps) in or about 1665.  She was likely born between 1640-1646, because I know Adam was a first child in 1666.

The theory is that Adam Downing likely would not have even known about Capt. William Montgomery's financial problem, unless he had the family connection of being his 1st cousin, both grandsons of Maj. Hugh.

ANY information could be the key to solving a huge mystery.
I have a proverbial "ton" of data on the Downings of northern Ireland and would be happy to share.

Forward Into the Past,
Rick

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