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Scotland / Handloom weavers photo and tongue twister
« on: Tuesday 29 September 20 06:35 BST (UK)  »
Just found this tongue twister on a postcard showing old hand-loom weavers in Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire  on the Strathaven website.

At the bottom of the photo it says:
‘When a twister, a-twisitng, will twist him a twist
For the twisting his twist he three twines doth intwist;
But if one of the twines of the twist doth untwist,
The twine that untwisteth, untwisteth the twist.”

A), Fabulous picture if you have hand-loom weaving ancestors, and B) I wonder if they could reel off that tongue-twister at speed?!

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Latin translation please. Deed
« on: Saturday 11 July 20 00:41 BST (UK)  »
I'd be grateful for a translation of this from Sheen Manor Court please.
Thanks very much.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1567 Inventory
« on: Monday 06 July 20 04:07 BST (UK)  »
I'd be grateful for some help with the 5th item in this Inventory please.
Already mentioned going down the list:
iij kye (kyne)
iij sterkes
ij calves
one mare
xxxij ?
one swyne
in brasse & puter

This writer has odd letter 'a's which add to the problem.
This man would have been a small time farmer, so I;d have thought they would have been something like 32 sheep/ewes/wethers/ etc, or possibly poultry.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / One line of Latin please
« on: Saturday 27 June 20 22:23 BST (UK)  »
From a 1545 will.
There is no Inventory as such. but some debts are given as the end of the will.
Are these debts the testator owes, or debts owing to him?

Thank you very much

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Latin from Manor court rolls please
« on: Saturday 27 June 20 05:06 BST (UK)  »
I would be grateful for a translation of these two bits please.
The top one is the usual blurb about the court - but it does give me the rest of the date in 1624.

Thank you very much

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Latin from Manor court rolls please
« on: Thursday 25 June 20 11:02 BST (UK)  »
I would be grateful for a translation of this piece concerning George and John Rogers.
I think in the late 1670s?

Many thanks

Scotland / Old Scottish occupation - 'Tower'
« on: Wednesday 13 May 20 23:12 BST (UK)  »
Looking at the ‘Carriage and Horse’ Tax for 1787 on Scotlandsplaces, there is a William Baird in Liberton, who is a ‘Tower’. He has just 1 horse. Any ideas of what this might be?
I thought it might tie in somehow with a Thomas Baird who I know was a carrier in Liberton, but was deceased before the date of the Taxes.

Thanks very much

I believe this might be around the turn of the century (1900), but would be grateful if the experts could cast their eyes over it and see what they think.
The church was built 1888.
Many thanks

Ayrshire / Darvel old Co-operative Society Buildings
« on: Saturday 11 April 20 06:09 BST (UK)  »
I see the old Co-operative building in Darvel has been demolished, and there is a plan to create a meeting place and farmer’s market on the site.
This building was built in 1931 evidently, according to various Scottish sites concerned with heritage buildings, although they seem to mention only the 2 storey corner building on Main Street and Ranoldcoup road. Looking at older photographs, there is also a much grander 4 storey building also on Ranoldcoup Road. which has bay windows and a very fancy turret with cupola.

As some of my ancestors came from Darvel, I have been looking into this.
It turns out that the Darvel Co-operative Society was inaugurated in 1840 - and I found a newspaper cutting that states my 4x great grandfather was Chairman of the committee set up to start it!
It is evidently one of the very early Co-operatives in Ayrshire - pre-dating the one in Rochdale, near Manchester, in 1844, which is always hailed as the origin of the Co-operative movement.

Does anybody know if this 1931 building was built on the site of the original Co-operative from 1840? I can’t find any information about this original building.
Does anybody know when the 4 storey part on Ronaldcoup Road was knocked down? And when it was built? I don’t think it was 1931 along with the other building. There is an old photo on of Ranoldcoup Road which shows this building as “Co-operative Buildings’, but the buildings on the corner of the road are not those that have just been knocked down, which suggests this building was built first. Another old photo from about 1900(?) clearly shows this building behind Hastings Square, so pre-dating the other part by at least 30 years.

Any information gratefully received! Thank you

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