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May 28 2012 -  Searching for the Burial Site of my great grandmother, Eliza Emily (Minnie) Trestrail Jenkin.

It's 2 years later, and I've requested a birth certificate for my grandfather, Percy Powning Trestrail  DOB  February 26, 1886.  His mother was Eliza Emily (Minnie) Trestrail and father is unknown.  The search is over and now I know that I will never know who my great grandfather is. 

My great grandmother, Eliza Emily (Minnie) Trestrail married William Henry Jenkin in March 1893 when my grandfather was 7 years old.  It looks like my grandfather stayed and lived with his grandparents after his mother married. And my grandfather, Percy Powning Trestrail went into the military service at a very young age.  His grandparents were William and Eliza Powning Trestrail of  Hayle.   

Eliza Emily Minnie Trestrail Jenkin and her husband William Henry Jenkin  had 5 children which I was shocked to discover my grandfather had half brothers and sisters. 

William Arthur Jenkin
Charles Garnett Jenkin  DOB June 15 1897  Bapt Sept 30 1897  Bodriggy St. Hayle
Eliza Minnie Jenkin  DOB July 18 1898  Bapt May 4 1899  Copperhouse Hill
Walter Perry Jenkin
Elizabeth M Jenkin

According to the Phillack PR:

William Henry Jenkin was buried 29 Nov 1908 – my great grandmother’s husband.

Elizabeth (Eliza Powning Trestrail ) was buried 28 Nov 1900  - my great gt grandmother

William Trestrail was buried 19 March 1904 – my great gt grandfather

 Elizabeth Trestrail was buried 15 Jan 1929.(Blind daughter of William & Eliza Trestrail)

If Minnie was still living in Phillack at the time of her death she also might be buried there with her parents, William & Eliza Powning Trestrail, her sister, Elizabeth, and her husband, William Henry Jenkin.  It is possible that there are no Headstones for their graves.

Perhaps Minnie & William married in a non conformist church or chapel & that Elizabeth M & Walter Perry were bapt in a non conformist church or chapel.

On the Genuki website the online burials only go up to 1929. The Online Parish Clerk for the parish is John Smith. I emailed him last week.  (Genuki, Cornwall, Phillack webpage or from the Online Parish Clerk, Cornwall, webpage.)  I have not heard from him, yet.  I hope I had the correct email address. 

I want to note that my other computer that has all the Family Tree Maker’s information has a monitor down and I can not access it.  It’s very maddening for me that I cannot access it for more detailed information.  I must make hard copies of everything as soon as I get a monitor working. 

What happened to my great grandmother, Eliza Emily Minnie Trestrail Jenkin. She was widowed at age 44 and she had 5 young children.  Perhaps she re-married.  It took all these years to confirm who she was and now I cannot follow her life to her burial.

I'm readng a page I wrote on in August 1990 when I was in Hayle looking for my great grandparents.  It says that my grandfather was in the Royal Navy from age 16 in 1902 - 1922.  He was married to Bessie Knight, of Hayle at age 36 at Parash Phillack of Hayle, S. Elwyn Vicarage, Wesleyian on Feb. 3, 1923.  They sailed to America and are buried in Brooklyn, NY. 

I’m not clear on what Phillack really means.  Is it a church?  A village run by a church?  Is it a village? 

Also, in August 1990, I knocked on the door of 21 Bodriggy Ct. and made a statement that my grandfather and great grandmother may have lived there and did the name Minnie Jenkin Trestrail ring a bell.  The young lad was Roger Jenkin and he said, "I'm a Jenkin" and I said what a coincidence, but I'm looking for information on my great grandmother and grandfather Minnie and Albert Trestrail.   DUH....I had no idea Minnie was a Trestrail and married a Jenkin.  Maybe this man was a descendent of my great grandmother.  I don't know how I got that exact address.  It must have been on the documents that my sons lost.   sigh.

Thank you for anyone that can enlighten me.

Linda Trestrail
Long Island
New York. 
 


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Even when the British gov't statistics and records couldn't find my grandfather, Percival Powning Trestrail in their records, I started to image that he was born in a barn and hidden from the world until he showed up in the 1891 census as a 5 yr. old living with his grandparents. 

There were 2 Percival Powning Trestrails  born in a close time frame and one died by 1886. 

But after I got a refund from the birth certificate search from the British govt records people, I persisted and wrote back with more detail. 

I found him.  Just as I suspected.  And I am most certain who his mother is but the British Records Office said there is NO listing for a father.  And he was listed as Percy Powning Trestrail not Percival, and the date of his birth is Feb. 26, 1886, not Feb. 26, 1885. 

I'm being offered to re-submit the 10 pounds to get this birth certificate, but it will not tell me who his father is.  I feel sad, I'll probably never know and tracing my lineage will end at this mystery on my grandfather's paternal side, but I'll continue with his grandparents, William and Elizabeth Powning Trestrail. 

Taking a long shot, I replied to the response from the British Records, and asked them if they would agree to confirm my intuition on who my grandfather's mother was & if I was wrong, then I'd apply for the birth certificate.  I wasn't asking them to give it away, but if I am right, it would be kindly of the supervisor who wrote to me to verify the name I gave her.  Do I need his birth certificate for any official business?  No. 

I have vague memories of Percy's naturalization papers stating that Albert Trestrail was his father, but he did have an Albert Trestrail for an uncle.

Where can I get his naturalization records?  Thank you for any help there. 

I'll have an answer or not on the name of my great grandmother very soon.

:-)))

Linda   

     

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Currently working on two Cambourne, Cornwall  residents. 

A. maternal grandmother,  7 August 1896 - 23 Sept. 1976 - (Elizabeth Mary Rubina Gill - nee Uren).

B. maternal grandfather, D.O.B.  29 October 1896 - (Horace H. Gill). 

Today just working solely on 3 generations of maternal GILL father & sons.     

1. Horace H. Gill.  1896 - 1946.  (sailed to NY in 1920)  My Grandfather

2. Charles Jasper Gill, 1867 - ?   (plumber)  Great Grandfather (married Alice Maude M Trewin b. 1868)

3. Thomas Hocking Gill, 1827 -  7 Oct 1895.  (tailor by trade) Great Great Grandfather (On 12 Dec 1859 he married Ann Edwards b. 12 Dec 1824 - Father Jasper Edward - Mother Elizabeth BRIANT.

I can't go any further with Thomas Hocking Gill.  I bet there's a Hocking surname somewhere in his ancestry.

I can't go any further with Elizabeth Briant - the mother of Thomas Hocking Gill's wife.

I can't go any further with Jasper Edwards, the father of Ann Edwards. 

Who is Elizabeth Briant?  Parents?  DOB?  Was she born in St. Hilary in 1793? Are her parents Daniel and Mary? 

Who are Jasper Edward's next of kin.  There's a lot of Thomas Edwards!!
 
I can't even use mathematics  to logically deduce finding the next generation because there are two names who could be related but are both born in the same year in towns a few miles apart. 

Any help would be gratefully appreciated. 

in loving kindness,

Linda Trestrail   

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / GILL TREWIN Family in Cambourne, Cornwall
« on: Tuesday 20 March 12 19:39 GMT (UK)  »
My Grandmother, Elizabeth Mary Rubina Uren b. august 7, 1896 of Cambourne, married Horace Gill b. October 29, 1986  of Cambourne.  They married at Ellis Island in the 1920's when she took a boat over to America to join her fiance, Horace, who left earlier on his own to seek a place to live and work.  She was not allowed to leave Ellis Island, until they were legally married.  Horace had come to America to find a job and new life for them due to the tin mines closing down.   

Horace's parents were Charles Gill and Maud Trewin.  Maud may have had a twin, Laura.
 
When I was in Cambourne in 1990, I was amazed at how many telephone listings there were for GILL. 

I have a feeling some of the descendents are still in Cambourne. 

anyone?

Thank you so much for all the help I had finding Elizabeth Mary Rubina Uren's roots with the Penpraze families. 

sincerely,

Linda Trestrail

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / UREN PENPRAZE in Cambourne 1890's
« on: Monday 19 March 12 19:15 GMT (UK)  »
Spent 2 solid days searching under the free search areas by hand - going through every single district until eyeballs fell out.

I cannot find my grandmother's parents.

My grandmother was born Elizabeth Mary Robina Uren - August 7, 1886Her mother was Elizabeth Penpraze who married James Uren.They had 7 children.
Norman Uren - went to Adelaide, AU
Stanley Uren - went to NY
Elizabeth Mary Robina Uren - went to NY & married Horace Gill from Cambourne
Raymond Uren
Gordon Uren
Stuart Uren
Ruth Ann Uren married Alfred Hughes and lived in Falmouth.

Enclosed is a picture of ELizabeth Penpraze Uren - she was a tailor of men's clothing in Cambourne. 

This is so impossible for me to trace my maternal side of the family.  2 days of endless searching. Please, anyone?

Linda Trestrail
 

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Cornwall / TRESTRAIL from Hayle, Cornwall
« on: Saturday 12 June 10 06:16 BST (UK)  »
Grandfather was Percival Powning Trestrail born Feb. 26th 1885 married to Bessie Knight born March 29th 1893.  They lived at 5 Clifton Terrace in Hayle - row housing  My grandfather was a mariner and worked with the British Navy for many years.  They had one son, my father, William Percival Trestrail - born Jan. 7 1924.  They sailed to New York around 1930.

I THOUGHT my grandfather, Percival Trestrail's parents were Albert Trestrail (born around 1860) and Minnie (Jenkin) Trestrail. They lived on Bodriggy Rd. in Hayle.  But there seems to be a conflict.  It's like my grandfather's parents just vanished with no records.  It also seems he lived with his grandfather and grandmother at age 15.  Maybe while he was on the naval ships at a young age, something happened to his parents.  But why no record.  I will have to find or purchase his birth certificate.

I was told my great grandparents are buried in the  Hayle church graveyard, but I could not find their tombstone in 1990 when I visited the church. 

Bessie (Knight) Trestrail's father was John Thomas Knight of Hayle.  I didn't have a record of Bessie Knight Trestrail's mother, but thanks to this great site, I found out today that her name was Bessie (Tremlett) Knight.   

Percival and Bessie Trestrail were married in

Parash Phillack of Hayle
S. Elwyn Vicarage
Wesleyian
P.E. & Berry - Pastor
on Feb. 3rd 1923   

My grandfather, Percival Powning Trestrail, was in the Royal Navy.  He sailed out of St. Ives either to come to America or with the Navy.  We were told he was only SEVEN when he boarded the Naval ships, trained,  and took off to sea.  I think that is incorrect.  They made laws to protect young children, except under odd circumstances or pauper laws. 

Once in New York, my father went to New York City public schools, and he met my Mother whose family was from Cambourne, Cornwall.  My mother's name was Elizabeth Joan Gill.  That will be under another subject title.  Mother's grandfather's surname was Uren.  Mother's mother, Rubina Uren married Horace Gill of Cambourne.

My parents William and Elizabeth (Gill) Trestrail had two children, my Brother James William Trestrail, and myself, Linda Joan Trestrail.  

I had lots of family documents and gave them to my two sons inside two leather bound family tree books and both of them misplaced or tossed out the books. I'm devastated over their loss.

In August 1990, I had been to COrnwall, Cambourne, Hayle and visited Phillack, and the minister took me to a Trestrail family who lived on the sea.  Ken and Rachael Trestrail lived at 82 Gwithian Towans in Hayle. They were not related to my family. 

Trestrail - from tre-strayl:  homestead of mat or carpet (maker).  Place name Trestrail,  Probus, spelt Trestrael 1278   

Anyone related to me?   

Linda Joan Trestrail

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