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David Williams, Gentleman, of Brecon made a Will in 1704. It is on-line at the Library of Wales Wills.

It refers to friend Edward Hughes and father John Williams. His wife Jane was pregnant and he had three young children: William. David and Catherin.

He may be the David Williams of Battle who was related to the Williams family of Bailey Brith in Merthyr Cynog.  David may have been a brother of Henry Williams of Bailey Brith who died in 1672

I have tried to identify John Williams, the father of this David Williams.

 He might have belonged to the family of Daniel Williams of Penpont (who died in 1707).

This is because in 1705 Daniel Williams of Penpont refused to be a Bondsman for the estate of a John Williams of Penpont Gent. who died intestate.

Thanks to deciphering by Bookbox, I have the following: 

May 1704
Daniel Williams, esquire, the natural and lawful father/brother (the Latin is illegible) and next blood relative of John Williams of Penpont, gentleman, who died intestate, has appeared personally and of his own volition has renounced and utterly rejected letters of administration for John’s estate.

Subsequently on the same Bond:

26 May 1705
Let there be administration of the goods, rights and credits of John Williams, gentleman, deceased, to Catherine Games, spinster, aunt and next relative of the said deceased, upon the renunciation of Daniel Williams, esquire, the natural and lawful father of the same deceased ...

ADDED - The implication, then, is that John died young, survived by his father Daniel and by his aunt (the Latin here is avuncula, usually meaning ‘maternal aunt’).

David Williams of Battle, adult in 1670 (in another Bond) seems too old to have such a young family.

But I can't find any other reference to the John Williams of Penpont who had Daniel Williams as Brother/Father and an aunt Catherine Games.

And that is odd for such a well-documented family as the Williams's of Penpont, Breconshire..

Any help will be gratefully appreciated!


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Latin Codicil 1705
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 06:25 BST (UK)  »
Another Latin script in a 1705 Bond..

I think it says that Daniel Williams is the father and closest relative of Thomas Williams deceased.

Or maybe brother?

I would like to know...


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Bond in Latin 1680 Please Help!
« on: Wednesday 06 October 21 06:48 BST (UK)  »

I have a copy of a Bond relating to the recantation of Hugh Beavan of Battle Breconshire from his Catholic Faith in 1680 It is annexed to his Will of the same date. It is on-line at the Library of Wales Wills.

FindMyPast has an Edward Hugh as one of the Bondsmen in a typed transcript of the parties to this Will.

I can't find this Edward Hugh except for a possibility in the attached document underlined in red.

I would like to know if it refers to a Edwardii Hugh, abbreviated to Edwi Hugh.

Also the gist of the document if possible.


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Please see the attached record of a Thomas Madocke marrying a Jane Lewis (I think!)

I would really like to decipher this entry properly. It is in the records of Talachddu Parish 1624

Many thanks!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Mixture of "h"s in a 1639 Will
« on: Wednesday 22 September 21 06:24 BST (UK)  »

I would like to know if the underlined name in the attached is John Hugh or John Pugh. There are several variations of "H' and "h" in the script and I can't decide which name is correct.

There is also a strange version of "five pounds and ??? shillings" that I would like to decipher!

Your help will be appreciated

Best regards!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :)

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / old Welsh name "ap something" Please help
« on: Saturday 18 September 21 01:46 BST (UK)  »

I'm interested in these 1535 Welsh names. I can decipher all but the last ap ???.

I'm not even sure the last ap is actually part of the names.  The document may be in Latin and that doesn't help!

I've circled the words in question. I would appreciate any help!


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Property Conveyance Wales 1335 Please help!
« on: Saturday 18 September 21 00:00 BST (UK)  »
Here is part of a property conveyance from 1535> I have deciphered some of the words, but I suspect it is in Latin!

The faded text and the ancient script make things very difficult.. Please let me know if it is in Latin, and if possible the gist of what is happening!

Any help will be greatly appreciated!


Llanfi  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Probate statement on a 1717 Bond in Latin
« on: Friday 03 September 21 00:33 BST (UK)  »

A bond on the estate of Henry Williams of Merthyr Cynog, Breconshire has one of the bounders identified as Elinor Williams.

There is a probate statement, please see attached, that I would like to decipher. I think it states that Elinor Williams was the wife of Henry Williams and is now called Elinor Pries (Price)

I'm not sure and I would be very grateful for your comments!


Llanfi :) :) :) :) :)

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / A single name on an old Welsh document!
« on: Friday 13 August 21 22:52 BST (UK)  »
I'd like your help once again!
It's a scribbled name that perplexes me. It refers to Henry William's Brother David, but he distinguishes him as the son of .........  I suppose this means that David was the son of a lady who wasn't Henry's mother.. I'd like to know!
Please see attached...


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