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Could this photo be dated please.  It came from an old album of my grandmother's that seemed to only have photos of her generation and before ie the few photos of my grandmothers children are in other boxes and not in this album. I think perhaps it was started by my gt grandmother Catherine Harris Ramage from Limavady Co Derry who emigrated to NZ with husband and family in 1885/86. The album has pictures taken in Limavady,  Belfast, Glasgow, Dublin with a few in Auckland NZ of gt aunts & uncles. 

He has a long cutaway coat, some sort of bow tie with an umbrella? and a top hat.  Would the brolly and top hat be props or would he have been wearing/carrying them?

Any idea how old the subject would be?

Shanreagh

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Could this photo be dated please.  It came from an old album of my grandmother's that seemed to only have photos of her generation and before ie the few photos of my grandmothers children are in other boxes and not in this album. I think perhaps it was started by my gt grandmother Catherine Harris Ramage who emigrated to NZ with husband and family in 1885/86. The album has pictures taken in Limavady,  Belfast, Glasgow, Dublin with a few in Auckland NZ of gt aunts & uncles. 

The corners seem to be more cut-off (in the photo) than gently rounded. Whiskers and longer coat may be clues! The coat sleeves seem to be very full from elbow down to wrist.  I cannot see for sure but he looks like he is wearing a bow tie. 

John Mack as a photographer I have been able to trace from 1885 (but probably earlier)  to at least 1901 (census)  when the 69 year John Mack was still in business with several of his children. 

I wrote the name and number on it. Naughty I know but in early 1980s we had them professionally photographed and needed to know where to put them back and also to record what my mother said as we took them out...as this could have been a clue.   

Any ideas how old the subject is? 

Shanreagh

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I am looking for the date of death of Mary Callaghan.  She was the daughter of Samuel and Mary Bloomfield (who were married in 1864) and married Samuel Callaghan at Parish Church of Aghanloo in on 13/7/1883 stating she was of full age. She and Samuel appear in the 1901 & 1911 censuses living in Limavady.  Samuel Callaghan died in 1918 in Limavady. We know that Mary was alive in 1916 (from her daughter's application to marry in Philadelphia) and the death notice of her son in 1934 (also in the US) states that he is the son of 'Mary Callaghan and the late Samuel Callaghan' leading us to suspect that she died after 1934. 

What is the best way of finding when she died apart from looking at indexes at GRONI (?) which is not possible as one searcher in is New Zealand the other in the US.  I have looked at a link to online British newspapers but not all the Northern Irish papers seem to be there.
We are hoping that the death certificate may give us further clues as to when she was born as we have not established that definitively. 
Any help will be very much appreciated.

Thanks
Shanreagh

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I am looking for Catherine Harris born May 1862 who emigrated to PA with her parents Lindsey and Mary Anne Callaghan Harrs from Limavady in Co Londonderry Ireland in 1865.  I have found her on 1870 & 1800 Philadelphia census.

I have found a Kate Harris (aged 28) with John Mcnamarah in Jersey City New Jersey and they have a female child on 23/8/1891. 

I have found a Catherine Harris (aged 32)  with Michael Heany (aged 38) in Newark New Jersey and their daughter Katherine M Heany born 18/8/1894.  Possibly K M Heany became Marie Cavanaugh of Philadelphia. A Catherine Heany is with that family in 1920 census.  An earlier census has her husband as Anthony Heaney.

Also I have found Michael Heany/Heney/Heaney and Kate/Katie Harris in Newark having Michael 23/5/1894, Ellen 29/7/1897  and James 16/12/1899. This couple are showing up on records as being  10 years younger appx than Catherine Harris & Michael Heany.

Is anyone looking for this family as well?
How can I find out if the three lots of Catherine Harris, Kate Harris and katie harris with the Mcnamara and Heaney husbands are one and the same or not.   

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Derry (Londonderry) / Benjamin Irwin buried Old Drummond graveyard
« on: Wednesday 21 March 12 06:06 GMT (UK)  »
I have come across the burial of Benjamin Irwin who died on 21/8/1831 . His address is given as Derrybeg, parish of Drumachose and plot 2/1 Old Drummond graveyard. 

He is the husband of Mary and I think an ancestor of Benjamin Irwin who farmed at Shanreagh at the time of Griffiths.  There are several Benjamin Irwins from around Ballykelly/Ballyspallan/Shanreagh and I think they may be  related to Ann Irwin (though there may be Donaghmore Tyrone connections here as well) who married Isaac Ramsey(Ramage of Shanreagh) in 1843.  They had a son Erwin/Irwin Ross Ramage (known as Ross) who was born 3/8/1844 and died in NZ 4/9/1905

Have looked for Derrybeg but no luck so far. Does Derrybeg still exist?
Is the Old Drummond graveyard at the old Drumachose church, the one in ruins on way to Coleraine (I think). If it is not this one does anyone know where the Old Drummond graveyard is?  Would plot 2/1 still be in existence?

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Derry (Londonderry) / Times for travelling by horse and cart in 1870s
« on: Monday 11 April 11 04:08 BST (UK)  »
hello listers,

This request has arisen from my mother remembering that her mother Catherine Banigan Ramage later Dahm 1874 -1963 told her that when the family lived in Shanreagh out of  Limavady that her mother Catherine Harris Ramage used to take grandma's older sister Sarah, who died in 1879, away to visit relatives and that they took the buggy and would make an early start and arrive back late at night from these visits.  My mother believed that the visits were to Harris relatives  who lived some distance away.   

Does anyone know how roughly how far a horse pulling  a buggy would have travel in an hour?

A wild card to find where the Harris relatives may have lived.

Cathy

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Derry (Londonderry) / Ballykelly Presbytarian Church - lookups?
« on: Monday 11 April 11 03:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I believe that I will find records about my Ramage family on the Ballykelly Presbyterian Church records.  From following some of the posts I think these are at the Coleraine FH library?  I guess that they will also be available for getting from the LDS site and viewing here in NZ. 

I am wondering if anyone does do lookups there and would look for some Ramages.

Ramages leased land at Shanreagh and were in Griffiths valuation, Flax growers etc.  I have found an on line reference to the  1870 marriage of my gt grandfather Erwin/Irwin/William Ross Ramage known as Ross Ramage to Catherine Harris and the christening of some of their children at Tamlaght Finlagan COI church.
Ross Ramage was born to Isaac Ramage and Nancy poss 1842   but the family believe Ross Ramage was Presbyterian and was buried from a Presbyterian church in Auckland NZ when he died in 1905. 
My Gt gt grandmother Nancy Ramage was buried at Tamlaght Finlagan Old Burying ground in 1885.  She was married to Isaac Ramage.   I have not been able to locate any marriage or other record for Isaac and Nancy or earlier.

There are Ramages showing up being married at St Columb in Londonderry in the 1780s/1790s with the same names Ross and Isaac but I am a couple of generations away yet from Ross born in about 1842. 

Hoping that some one does do look-ups. I would be most grateful. 

Did I read that the lists were available on CD?

Cathy aka Shanreagh


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I have attached a  photograph from a family album. We don't know who it is of but it must be important, we think, to be in this very ornate album.  I have attached a copy of the bottom of it. 
Queries:
Where is there a directory of businesses around Auckland that would show this firm..I have checked for the Auckland directories from Wgtn City library but they seem to start in the late 1890s and do not have this firm in them. 
Are any of the clothes capable of being dated.

How old do people think the children look to be?
 
This might be my gt grandfather, holding the little child, with his children. The family came in two lots in 1885 from Northern Ireland.   Lived in Freeman's Bay.

Thank you in advice for any help you can give to this new lister.

Cathy 

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New Zealand Completed Requests / COMPLETED Shipping list search Auckland City Library
« on: Friday 18 February 11 06:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
 I did a passenger list search through the AUckland city library site and now have a print out of the family coming to NZ in 1885 (two separate journeys). I want to look at the originals from where the  library search is 'pulled'.  Being able to look at the listings may clarify some of the details in the printed search results.   I have asked the library where these are located but have not heard back from them. Do any of the listers know the source of the passenger lists used by ACL for their searches?

Cathy
Families: Harris, Ramage from Limavady Northern Ireland  to NZ 1885 & Harris to PA USA 1858 & 1868

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