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Hi, Long time since I've been on here, so be gentle!

I'm searching for information on the Turner Family, originally from Sheffield, Eng. Last known whereabouts Ottawa, Ontario.

Alice Turner (nee Bowers) born 1871 Sheffield, wife of John Thomas Turner, is seen on the 1911 Canadian Census, residing with her sister Lucy Stille (nee Bowers) and her husband and family

DETAILS: Ottawa City, Carleton, Ontario, Canada: Stille, Frederick C, Head, Born Sept 1879, aged 32, Born England, Civil Servant; Lucy Stille, Wife, Born Aug 1875 aged 36, Born England; Ellen Mabel Stille, Daughter, born Jan 1905, Ontario; Wilhelmina Stille, Daughter, aged 1907, aged 3, Born Ontario; Frederick Stille, Son, born Oct 1908, aged 2, Born Ontario; Winifred Stille, Daughter, Born Feb 1911, Ontario; Frederick W Bowers, Father, Widowed, born Nov 1845, aged 66, Born England; Alice Turner, Sister, Single, born Sept 1872 aged 39, Born England:

Lucy emigrated 1903, Alice is on a ship manifesto 1907, their father Fred W Bowers 1911

Alice and her estranged husband had one son John Thomas Turner born 1896 Sheffield. I havent found him on a ship's list going to Canada yet, but in 1917 he attested for the Canadian forces, listing himself as single, and his address was in Charleston, MA, USA. His NOK was listed as his mother Alice Turner, address 33 Dufferin Rd, New Edinburgh, Ottawa.

The next siting I have of John Thomas Junior was in a ship's list returning to Canada from England, in 1927, he is listed with his wife Emily Emelia (surname unknown) born c1894 Sheffield, and a daughter Phyllis Patricia born c1921 Ottawa, their returning address is listed as (what I decipher) as 434 Laurier Ave, Ottawa.  Their last address/relative in England is listed as Father, Mr ? (Furness ?) 393 Manor Lane, Sheffield - see image attached, its a bit blurry.  If anyone has a different view of the names/addresses, let me know

In 1921 & 1931 I found Alice working as a widowed Housekeeper for Thomas O Workman and his daughter. 

I cant find John, Emily Phyllis in 1931 Census, nor the address listed in 1927, or any other trace of them, Phyllis was born in Ottawa C1921, cant find a birth for her and I am struggling to find wife Emily's surname pre marriage, or their marriage in England/Canada. 

Can anyone help or point me in some direction of resources. I have plenty of Information on Lucy Stille nee Bower so not looking for that, just more on Alice and her son and his family.

Many thanks in Advance
Cheers
Jan

Hi
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Cheers
Jan Ann

Hi Lovely Peeps
I need help with a mysterious lady.

I forked out some of my pennies yesterday to download a Victoria Marriage Certificate dated 1881 mainly because the lady in question is a complete mystery to me and as part of my one name study (Tivey/Tivy variant) I would like to find out exactly who she is.

On this marriage certificate (attached) she is listed as DORA WINIFRED TIVEY  a spinster born Pimlico England (I believe that is central London Westminster area ?). She married Johann Georg Luckmann  (on other indexes and online trees he is a Prussian named  Johan George Luehman)  Yet on the death index (1882 year) Dora is listed as FLORA WINIFRED LUCKMAN.  From the very poor handwriting on the cert I can just about make out that her father was WILLIAM TIVEY or Tivy Electric Manager ? and mother Mary Theresa Teague. On the death index her father is listed as William TINEY her mother Mary Theresa Teague.

The thing is - if she was born London England  then her birth isnt listed as Tiney, Tivey or Tivy. There isnt any marriage listed in England for a Mary Theresa Teague either (it could be pre 1837 not sure) there are several William Tivey/Tivy who could fit the bill.

Anyhow - there are online trees that suggest Flora or Dora was previously married to a Gustav Francis Peterson/Petersen in 1872 (no idea where) and had children Flora Alice, Arthur Francis, George Victor and Edith Florence. So why she was listed as a spinster is beyond me  :0  - but not unusual - I have a couple of others that were widows and were listed as spinster or bachelor for some reason.

So far I have found (in the Victoria Indexes)

BIRTH  1874 PETERSON Flora  Mother: Flora (Tivey) Father Gustave
DEATH 1875 PETERSON Florance Mother: Flora Winifred (Tivey)
BIRTH  1875 PETERSON Arthur Francis Mother: Flora (Tivey) Father: Frank
BIRTH  1877 PETERSON George Victor Mother: Flora Winifred (Tivey) Father George
BIRTH 1878 PETERSEN Edith Florence Mother: Flora (Tivey) Father George

So (sorry to be so long-winded as per usual) what im really looking for is anyone with a sharp eye and/or knowledge of Victoria that can decipher the district they wed in, the addresses or places they gave on the cert,  whether you are in agreement with parent names and if anyone can come up with a marriage to Mr Peterson or a death for him?  Any other detail for the children or her parents in Australia.
There are so many references to her as FLORA TIVEY that Im convinced she is indeed a TIVEY -I just have to find her origins now - Can anyone fill in the gaps ?

Your help is gratefully appreciated.
Jan Ann
Cheshire UK

Hiyall

After finally tracking down one of my brick walls
I have found that Charles Tivey born 1840 Wormley, Hertfordshire, England, (a gardener by trade) was in Jersey by the 1871 census (I have him in Herts previous to that)  Im looking for a marriage for he and his wife Armance - can anyone tell me where I can buy certificates, if they married Jersey? Or if anyone lives near the Jersey Archive, could someone do a look up please or get a copy for me please?
I have managed to track down his death 1897 Neauphle-le-Château, but if anyone could find out anything more about Charles and his wife and offspring I would be most thnakful.

Cheers
Jan Ann

Hi Peeps
This might not be new but as i have just discovered them I thought I would let you know.

Family Search now has an indexed Derbyshire Parish records section that feature's the actual images - all FREE of Charge 
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1911752

Lovely
Cheers
Jan ann