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Armed Forces / Did my Grandfather see any action in WW1?
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 15:41 BST (UK)  »
For many years now I've been aware that my grandfather took part in WW1 and indeed I knew he was a POW but actual dates were not forthcoming, That is until recently and now it's thrown up a new set of questions.
He was Michael Alfred King, Born 1897 in Belfast. Living at Queen Victoria Street. It would appear he signed up in 1915 / 1916 and joined the Royal Irish Rifles. The documents I have are very faded photo copies so inaccuracies will exist. From research I have done shows he was in a Reserve regiment based first at Holywood and then to Clandeboye (both Northern Ireland). The regiment then moved to England in 1918. However this is confusing as the faded document indicates he was posted, somewhere, in 1917. We then have a gap in the information and then we now found out he was indeed a POW @ St Quentin, in France on 23/05/1918 and indeed data shows he was a POW from 21/03/1918 - 04/01/1919.However we have some, unverified, information that he may also have been at Stendal The German Empire POW camp just west of Berlin.
Can any military experts help fill in the missing pieces? Any info at all would be both helpful and interesting.

Thanks Jardiner

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Australia / King family
« on: Wednesday 21 February 24 10:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there. I'm researching a mystery that has just come to light about an ancestor of mine.

Hugo Walton King. Born 1853 in Whitehaven, Cumberland, United Kingdom.
For years now we've had him on our scant records as having died 1872 at the young age of 18. No records were available to back this up so it was just accepted. However a snippet of information has come to light suggesting he either became a seaman or worked his passage over to Australia. The death date would either refer to date leaving the UK or the time he stepped onto Australian soil and set up a new life. I know Australia is a huge country and my only guide would be a regular sailing from Liverpool. Does any member know of or have in their family details of such a person? One other thing that may help is the fact that his father and grandfather were cabinet makers and certainly after the death of his father in 1865 the business closed and furniture items sold. We know a cabinet made in the style of Chippendale was indeed purchased at a later date by someone in Australia- person unknown.

Regards
Jardiner

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Cumberland / King family in Whitehaven
« on: Wednesday 14 February 24 10:28 GMT (UK)  »
After a long break I've restarted researching the family name. I've hit a brick wall with regards as to where the family name  from originally. If I start with GGGF who was a cabinet maker at 76 Lowther Street in Whitehaven and carried on business, employing many men, until his death in 1865. There are several references to him local publications and in national reference books. Prior to him there were William and Michael King who were looking-glass manufacturers, sheet glass, and posibilly clock makers. residing at one stage in King street. I can get back as far as birth date for Michael King  1713 with a death date of 1787 (not totally confirmed). I know Whitehaven was an up and coming town with coal mining,etc so it's more and likely they came for the work. But, from Where? I've looked at many sites specializing in listing local Whitehaven family names and King does not appear. Any info or suggestions would be gratefully received. M King

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Down / Coffey and Trowbridge families
« on: Friday 09 February 24 11:32 GMT (UK)  »
After a few years absence I'm back on the searching trail. I'm looking for any information about my great grandmother on my father's side. She was Sophia Coffey born around 1872. She married Henry Trowbridge. ( he was a career soldier and he died in 1909 in Belfast after military discharge for health reasons). After his death she lived with her brother, William Coffey, in Cloughy along with her 3 children on being my Grandmother (Sarah Trowbridge - who later married Michael Alfred King).
In the 1911 census for Cloughy in addition to her brother William, there was Robert, Maryanne and William (Nephew) Coffey all in same house.
At some stage she moved from here to Portaferry and lived somewhere in the Mountain Road area until her death. My father was baptised in this house. I do recall an Aunt Bella also living in Portaferry in a house across the main road from the police station and I seem to recall, as a child, she had some form of mobility problem. I know GGM was buried in Ballymalish ?? grave yard but as yet I've found no markings. Any help would be appreciated before I move onto to the extended family around the area. Many thanks.

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Cumberland / William A & Robert D King
« on: Friday 08 May 20 14:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi there.  I have to ancestors for whom I would love to know more about.
1 William A King. Born: 15/12/1833 in Whitehaven. Possibly died circa 1896 and  possibly in Keswick. (Not to be confused with other WA Kings from the same family).
He married Cora Mary Waller 10/02/1879 in Liverpool.I believe this was her 2nd marriage and her maiden was Smith. Not yet confirmed. I would like to know more about her. Also I've no records of children to this couple.
2.Robert Dixon King. Born: 1844 in Whitehaven. Died: possibly 1897 but unsure.
He married Mary Emily Barr 25/08/1878 in Liverpool. This seems to also be her second marriage as she too seems to be called Smith. I'd like to have more on her  and again I've no records of children for this couple. His death date is uncertain as her was a mariner and possibly died at sea. When married they were living at Prussia Street, Liverpool. Any info would be great.
MEKing

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Useful Links / Kings from Whitehaven & beyond.
« on: Tuesday 28 April 20 13:55 BST (UK)  »
For all those members of the my family in England, Ireland, USA & Canada I've created a family history blog which I update regularly when new info comes my way. Please feel to post comments with corrections, additions, etc. www.searchingforkings.com

M King

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Lancashire / King
« on: Sunday 02 December 18 11:21 GMT (UK)  »
I've come across some interesting information about one of my Great uncles. Robert Dixon King was born 1844 in Whitehaven, Cumbria.  On 25/08/1878 he married Mary Emily Barr in Liverpool. This was not her first marriage as her Father's name was William Smith. . On a well known research site, it lists First Name ( Mary Emily). Last name (Barr). Name note (Mariner).
What does this actually refer to? My records tell me her was indeed a sailor in the merchant navy.
In addition to this I have  no death details for either him or her nor any record of children.

Can anyone help?

MK

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Cumberland / sorting out who is who
« on: Monday 12 November 18 12:15 GMT (UK)  »
I've come across a problem which I'm sure many others have experienced. Not living anywhere near Cumbria I rely on the websites that provide ancestry data but find it difficult to verify if a name is the right one. EG: Take Robert D King Br: 1844 in Whitehaven. I have seen census records which bear his name and that's no problem. I've seen birth info which confirms he was born in 1844. However when I wish to investigate further say death, marriage, children, occupation, etc it's difficult to ascertain if the Robert D King I'm looking at is indeed him as the records on display only show his name, and no others that would allow me to accept or reject it. This is made worst as I've found other R Kings and RD Kings born in the same location, in the same time scale 1883-1885. Any advice. MK

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Cumberland / How to find more when working from a distance.
« on: Monday 23 July 18 14:14 BST (UK)  »
Currently I reply upon free and subscription sites to research my family and I must say that the success rate to date has been very good. There are however a lot of loose ends to which I can't get answers to and therefore cannot confirm if they really are related. This fact is exacerbated when looking for a particular name one finds many similar christian names, born around the same time and in the same location and could be verified if only 2 names of parents were given. but alas only the fathers name is given and they end up being the same.
1. The King family living in Whitehaven, or surrounding area. I've managed to locate a Michael King. Born Circa 1713 and married Ann Alkin in 1752 at Holy Trinity in Whitehaven.The birth date was taken from other documents which did not confirm actual day and month. I cannot find birth records for him which stops me from finding out his parents and where he was born.
2. He had a son  Robert (26/12/1760).  He married a N Fisher at Holy Trinity W'Haven in 1786. Now I cannot locate any children for them and indeed when it comes to his death there are now 2 Roberts. One dies in 1841 and another dies in 1847. The latter is RF King and indeed other documents indicate that this could be him. How can I confirm who is the right guy?

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards

MEK

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