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I'm looking for help finding the true birth of John Boyd. On the 1939 Register he gives his date of birth as the 22nd May 1891 however there are no records for a John Boyd born 2nd or 3rd quarter of 1891 in Manchester only one in the 4th quarter.  I then found one page of a record on the Seaman's Register dated 1910 with the same birth date and  place of birth and he's a fruit hawker.

Following the record for the one born in the 4th quarter 1891 I found a baptismal record at St Oswald's Church, Collyhurst on the 8th November 1891 to a John and Sarah Elizabeth Boyd. In 1911 the family are living in Bolton and give his age as 19 which would fit with a birthday after the census.

Is it possible that his parents forgot to register his birth and did so later in the year but told him his true birthday?

Thanks

Margaret

I came across this last night and couldn't stop laughing.

When asked his occupation the guy replied Nail and woolly teeth maker. He was either a very sarcastic man or he had the oddest job going.

That's a first for me.     

While researching a priest in Manchester on the 1901 census I came across John G Boulaye a priest at St Chad's Church. Under Occupation or Profession it states, " A so called idolatrous Roman Catholic Priest. Workhouse Chaplain".

Obviously the enumerator didn't like him. 

Can anyone work out for me if these are the same family because I'm confused now. I know the 1911 is correct and all the children were born to Christopher McGrath and Mary Ann nee Deveraux.

On the 1911 census the following family give these details.

Christopher McGrath age 60 Labourer born Tipperary
Mary Ann 49                                          "
Catherine  28  dau Shirt Maker         "
Ellen 23  dau Domestic Servant          "
John 22 son Bricklayer            "
Nora 19  dau Bookbinder            "
Walter  18  son Bricklayer            "
Christopher 16  son Errand boy born Manchester.

Living at 84 Blacklock Street, Bradford, Manchester.

Mary Ann says she's had 9 children and none have died.

I then looked for the family on the 1901 census and couldn't find Christopher or Mary Ann so I looked for their younger children and the only link that I found was-

William McGrath age 48 no occupation  born Tipperary
Mary A 43                  "         
Willie  23 son a brickfitter             "
Margaret 18 dau shirt machinist.         "
Ellen 16 dau.                  "
John 14 son labourer.            "
Norah 12 dau.               "
Walter 10 son.               "
Christopher 7 son.          born   Manchester

Living at 110 Westmoreland Street, Harperhey, Manchester.

There is only one Christopher McGrath born circa 1893 in Lancashire.

I'm looking for John Charles White a Baker by trade, born in Winchester circa 1830, he's not on the 1841, 51 or 61 censuses and he suddenly turns up in Manchester in 1871 with a family. His wife Mary Ann Aubrey born Banbury, Oxfordshire circa 1835 and children Margaret born in Maidstone Kent circa 1856 and Frederick born in 1859 in Walsall and this is where I hit a brickwall. There are no birth or marriage records for him and Margaret's birth isn't recorded.

I wondered if Mary Ann had been married to someone else when Margaret was born so I cross referenced every Margaret born in Maidstone between 1855-1857 and then looked for a marriage of the surname to a Mary Ann Aubrey and couldn't find one.

The White's are  not on the 1861 census anywhere in the country so it makes searching backwards more difficult.

I've found Mary Ann on the 1841 and 51 censuses and her brother living with them in 1891. It's John White that's causing the problem. I know he was probably a journeyman baker so moved around the country but where was he pre-1871?

I really would appreciate some help on this family it's driving me crazy.

Margaret