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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / re DNa match
« on: Saturday 01 February 20 10:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
I'm writing a genealogical story and for the sake of the plot I need to ask a question about DNA.
I have two sisters and their offspring ,a granddaughter and a daughter .
So a first cousin once removed.
Would they immediately appear as a close match on a DNA  testing site or could I get away with the match being lower down the list and initially missed?

After all if the two sisters only pass on 50% of their DNA to their children it doesn't have to be the same bit does it?


Ciderdrinker

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Staffordshire / 1901 census look up
« on: Saturday 01 February 20 10:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
I have a couple George Willis Keatley and his wife Emily Hodgkiss .
George is born 1870 Sutton Coldfield and Emily 1872 .
They marry at Weeford in 1891 and are on the 1891 census at Swinford.
I can find George on the 1911 at Hammerwich with his oldest and youngest sons  but he is married and no sign of Emily or the others.
Children
James 1891
George 1893
Ellen Annie 1896
Arthur Frederick 1899
Rose 1901

Two of the children George and Ellen Annie depart for Canada in 1905 as British Home children.
Rose is with an 'aunt' Emily Ramsbottom and her husband in 1911 in Manchester.
I very much suspect the 'aunt' is her mother.

What happened and where are they on the 1901 census?

Ciderdrinker

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Worcestershire / Who is Bridget?
« on: Friday 25 October 19 15:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Looking at the Smiths of Worcester.
I found William Smith born 1801 at Friars Alley Worcester in 1841.
Living with him is a Bridget Smith born 1813 from Ireland.
I think I've got his baptism 1796 St Martins to John and Lucy Smith.
But no sister Bridget.

William a widower remarries in 1842 to Susannah Mallet at All Saints.
witness is Bridget Craven who goes on to marry John Percival in 1850 at St Clements.
She and her husband are living two doors down from the widowed Susannah Smith on the 1851 census in St Clements St. Bridget is born 1824 Dublin.

So is Bridget Craven/Percival originally Bridget Smith ?  There are 3 possible children but mother's maiden name is Craven.

Who is Bridget Smith born 1813?
Is she William's sister ,daughter ?

Any ideas?

Ciderdrinker

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Worcestershire Lookup Requests / Marriage William smith and Susanna Mallet
« on: Friday 18 October 19 11:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I have the couple William Smith an ex soldier marrying Susannah Mallet in Mar qtr 1842 at Worcester.
Unfortunately it's not on line.
I think it will be at All Saints as she came from that parish or possibly at St Clement where they lived after the marriage and he was buried in 1850.
I'd really like to know his father's name.
I'd really appreciate it if anyone can help.

Ciderdrinker

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Huntingdonshire / James smith born 1837 in st Ives.
« on: Friday 18 October 19 11:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Anyone fancy a challenge?
I have a James Smith born 1837 in st Ives.
He turns up in Wolverhampton c 1874 as a clock maker ,repairer and meets up with Sarah Moore ,a local girl from Aston Birmingham born c 1844.
There seems to be no marriage but they go on to have 12 children.
In 1911 on the census he is a OAP but also mentions ten years service in the Army as an officers servant.

I can't find anything on that.
There is a possible James smith on the 1841 census son of William and Elizabeth in St Ives.On the 1851 dad William has died and he is with his widowed mother and siblings.The youngest George was born in 1850.If these are his parents then his mother was a Miss Richardson.

Can anyone find anything on James?
It doesn't seem like the records from the parish of St Ives are on line.
Any ideas welcome.

Ciderdrinker.

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Warwickshire / Where is Florence?
« on: Thursday 26 September 19 10:56 BST (UK)  »
Hello all.
I had someone come in to my family history group.
They are looking for granddad's family Frank Roden born 1912 in Birmingham.
His mother was Rose Martha Alfreda Roden born 1875 and married James Ryan in 1929.
All ok there but she seems to have had lots of children without marrying.
Any help on them and their father's appreciated.

Children
Harry Henry Roden born 1894/5 nephew with uncle Frank on census
Minnie Jane Roden born 1895 with Mom 1901 and in Banardos 1911 (father Alfred Hill?)
Alfred Edward Roden/Hill born 1899 died 1906  same father
Rose Hill born 1902

Beatrice Ellen Hill born 1907 -father Arthur Hill painter
William Roden b and died 1910
Frank born 1912 father Arthur Roden painter
Florence ???? He had a sister Florence but no birth reg or baptism found.

Any help appreciated

Ciderdrinker


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Hello Everyone
I'm doing a bit of research for a friend of a friend.
I've got to Oliver Price helmet maker born 1841 at North Marston
It looks like he is the son of Josiah Mahyo and Hannah Price.

He marries 1861 at Hemel Hampstead even though on the 1861 census he is living in London.Bride Eliza Marian Leech was supposedly born 1841 Kentish Town d of William a piano forte maker but no sign of her before the marriage.
1871 they are in London together
1881 he is now a widower with a house keeper
1891 He turns into a Mr Oliver Price and moves to the East End
His dead wife meanwhile returns to live with married daughter Mary Klyen as Marian E Price.
Son William is living next door as William Bennett.
Other son George born 1866 also has turned into a George Bennett.

No deaths either for Oliver Price or Bennett or his wife Eliza Marian.

Any ideas as where Eliza Marian Price nee Leech  came from or went to ?
Why they changed their names to Bennett
What happened to Oliver Price/Bennett?

Any help appreciated.This family is proving to be something of a challenge.

Ciderdrinker

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Hertfordshire / George Charles Bennett born 26 Feb 1910
« on: Thursday 12 September 19 11:12 BST (UK)  »
Hello
I'm looking up a family tree for a friend of a friend.It's her father in law we're after for her daughter who can't remember her father and who is now out of touch with her late husbands family.
  I've hit a bit of a snag with father in law George Charles Bennett born 26.2.1910 who married Abbots Langley Dec 1933 to Doris May Atkins .He is supposed to have two brothers and be from the East End of London.
His father is listed as George Bennett cork helmut maker on the marriage cert.
witnesses the married couple Frank and Pyhllis Visick nee Blackburn.

Which after spending 11 of her money gets me nowhere.
I have no George Charles Bennetts born in Mar or June qtr 1910 that fit the birthdate and father George(the one in Chester has a different DOB).
So I looked at George Bennetts and managed to whittle it down to 2
George Bennett June 1910 Dewsbury s of George Arthur Bennett and Annie Crawthorne miner-2 brothers
George Bennett June 1910 Wisbech s of George Robert Bennett and Edith Anne Horspool baker.No brothers

I'd like to go for the first ,there is a military record which gives the DOB for his 3 sons.George 's is a bit difficult to read and could be either the 20th or 26th.
But that does seem to fit better than the other one.But Dad as far as I know was never a cork helmet maker.
And George Arthur Bennett changes his date of birth 1885-1890 and helpfully marries Annie at the Registry office in Batley in 1908.So no help with his parents.

Help please!

Ciderdrinker

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Staffordshire / Mystery of the Disappearing spouses
« on: Monday 13 May 19 12:53 BST (UK)  »
Hello everyone
I have a Jane Keatley born 1851 in Sutton Coldfield d of John and Jane.
In 1868 she married an Adam Clifton at St Peter's Walsall Wood.
Adam was from Whitwick Leicestershire born c 1845. son of a Henry Howe and Hannah Clifton.
His father is called Clifton on his marriage cert.
Jane then appears in Aldridge where her Keatley family are living as a servant Jane Keatley born 1850 on the 1871 census.
Adam is nowhere to be seen until 1881 when he marries Eliza Gent nee Taylor widow at Bloxwich All Saints under the name of Clift.
Eliza had married John Gent at Rushall in 1868 ,they were together in 1871 with son Arthur.John was a miner born 1840/1845/1848 Bloxwich. He is never seen again.
From 1881 Adam Clifton and Eliza are together in Basford ,have nine children and are easy to find.

So what happened to Jane Keatley and John Gent?
Adam and Eliza seem to have their first child in 1875 Mary A/Amy depending on census or birth reg born Walsall/West Bromwich.
The last Gent child David is 1872.

Any ideas would be welcome
Thanks

Ciderdrinker

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