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Wales Resources / William John Fireman at Lan Colliery Lower Pentyrch 1875
« on: Tuesday 21 November 23 08:52 GMT (UK)  »
Over the past months have recreated the Inquiry into the 1875 Lan Colliery disaster. The actual records are lost. Luckily, archived newspaper of the day give near verbatim reports of proceedings so through detailed reading, this research was possible.

 One man is particularly interesting. Fireman William John. He is recalled to give evidence several times, told his job is on the line. He gives evidence against Abraham Phillips, the overman.

Now my question. I know nothing about William John beyond the fact he was fireman at Lan Colliery and he wasn’t underground at the time of the explosion, and that he hadn’t entered gas in the record book.

Is There any possibility of tracing a person with so little information? William John. fireman Lan Colliery. 1875. Probably lived in Lower Pentyrch, Gwaelod y Garth, or Taffs Well.

Any ideas welcomed! Thanks so much. :)


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Rootschat researchers, I wonder if anyone can help with this one - I have very little information. I am trying to assess the status of the Victorian Coroner EB Reece. His name appears with great frequency in archived newspapers but I can find no actual information about the man. 

I have found an old photo from the Western Mail, but that isn't much help in understanding who the man was. His name was EDWARD B REECE. I know he lived and was acting as a Coroner in 1875 mining disasters. I also know he was incredibly busy. Can anyone throw light on the social status of the Victorian Coroner?  I know that earlier they were on the same level as judges and I have seen they had to be doctors or surgeons.

I simply don't know where to start ... and Ive been researching him as best as I can for weeks. Not sure anyone can trace a person with so little information- but someone in your team usually manages. Please try to find the Cardiff Coroner! Thank you so much. Normax

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Family History Beginners Board / Moses Llewellyn
« on: Monday 21 August 23 20:11 BST (UK)  »
Moses Llewellyn died on December 6th. 1875 in Lan Colliery, Lower Pentyrch. He was eleven years old. I know he was the third eldest of the five children of Kindness and Samuel Llewellyn. I believe the youngest was called Lydia who  was one year old in 1875. The 1871 Census gives their address as The Old Mill, Gelynos. Same given in 1881 but I believe the family moved to live in Springfield Gardens because the local graveyard has Moses' grave monument.

I would be grateful if anyone can  locate the other siblings in the family, particularly the two who were older than Moses. I would also love to know if the older children were also miners. I haven't located the date of death of Samuel LLewellyn, the father, but wonder if he was injured in the Lan disaster and subsequently died of his injuries, or if he survived it while his son died.

It is extremely interesting to see the fine grave and head stone of Moses. Given how poor the family are likely to have been, and that some caught in  the disaster went to pauper's graves, it is curious that this little boy has such a grand memorial. Any ideas, anyone? I will attach a photo of Moses grave memorial. Thank you.  I am grateful to whoever feels able to help on this. :)

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I wonder if anyone can find John Phillips, know locally as Shon o'r Lan. I know he was born in 1786 in Ystrad Dyfodwg, and that he died in 1871. Initially married to a Gwenllian Llewellyn who died in 1820, he and his second wife, Deborah Thomas, moved to Lan Farm in Pentyrch around 1829. In 1840, or thereabouts, he moved into Lower Pentyrch, which took its own name of Gwaelod y Garth around this time. I cannot find his home after he moved from Lan farm. Can anyone find it on the census?

 I have also found he was baptised by total immersion in the Taff with his his wife on April 17th. 1859. He was a local leader of the Ivorites. So grateful if anyone can find that missing link of his home in Pentyrch/Gwaelod y Garth. Thanks.  :)

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Glamorganshire / Millie from Pentyrch 1916 onwards
« on: Wednesday 15 March 23 20:54 GMT (UK)  »
Here's an impossible search - but you seem to do the impossible. We are looking for a girl named Millie who may have lived in Pentyrch and is likely to have links with Mountain Ash. She will have been around twenty in the First World War, where the boy she loved lost his life.

Why do we want to know? It’s a complicated story. What we have is an obituary poem to  George, the boy she loved. He was with the Seaforth Highlanders, the Buffs, a hero of the battle of  Loos, which took place on the Western Front between 25 September and 13 October 1915.  He died of his wounds in March 1916. There’s a story behind this quest. But first, we need to find a Millie who may have lived in Pentyrch.  is any one willing to give it a go to find  a Millie in Pentyrch? Could be Evans, but not sure. Thanks. And if no one can try such an impossible search, thanks for reading anyway. :)

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Glamorganshire / Can any one find a needle in a haystack? Seeking Henry Williams 1811
« on: Sunday 05 February 23 15:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I run a history group and have been asked if I can help locate Henry Williams for a member. Henry Williams is the son of Richard Williams. They are thought to be from a family of boatmen in Llantwit Fadre.  The photograph below of the birth entry  (1811)is partially unreadable, but it seems to say Henry, son of Richard Williams Villa. (Is Villa a house name? We can find no place named such).  The remaining words we can't decipher.

Beyond that, the group member has links to the Morley and Williams families. The mother of his paternal Great Great Grandparents  is thought to be  Emma Jame Morley. The GG grandparents themselves are Llewellyn and Sarah Morley.

Is there enough here to search? If anyone can face it,  I would love to pass it on to the man who seeks this missing link. Photos below: birth entry; Llewellyn and Sarah Morley and her sister Catherine Gwen Morley. 1895. Nantgarw.

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The Common Room / Caroline Emily Lindsay m.to TW Booker
« on: Monday 23 January 23 19:57 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching the Booker and Lindsay families. TW Booker was an iron master in S Wales in the late 19th. century. His son, Thomas William Booker married Caroline Emily Lindsay. They lived in Velindre in Whitchurch, Cardiff and subsequently at Sea Lawns, Slon in Southerndown on the Glamorgan coast. Apart from local press announcing the marriage between TWB jnr and Caroline Lindsay, I am not managing to assess the various Lindsay families to establish which is the family of Caroline. Can anyone help, please? I thought her father was Robert Lindsay, but I am finding so many Lindsays of that name and none that quite fit. Caroline and TWR had eight daughters and one son who died in infancy.

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Glamorganshire / Shon o'Lan/ John Phillips
« on: Thursday 25 August 22 19:55 BST (UK)  »
John Phillips, Shon 0'r Lan, was born in 1786. One of his siblings was Abraham Phillips, first son of  Shon's second marriage to Deborah Thomas. He was to have fourteen children in the two marriages (his first wife was Gwenllian Llewellyn who died in 1820) and more than fifty grandchildren. I know he lived in Ystrad Dyfodwg and that he moved to Llan farm around 1820. After a stay there , he moved into the village, then called Pentyrch, now called Gwaelod y Garth, in the 1840s What I can't establish is where he lived in this village. Is it feasible to search this? If so, I would be most grateful. It's the missing bit in his history. He died in  1871.

Thank you for reading. Fingers crossed someone has she answer.  :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Thomas William Booker, Jnr.
« on: Sunday 07 August 22 19:01 BST (UK)  »
Good evening.
I am researching the history of our local pub which is deeply tied up with the Welsh Industrial Revolution in South Wales. I'm almost there. Contemporary papers are  a good source of information, bu there are no pictures of course.. The Booker family were major investors in industry in our village and were the original owners of the pub. While I can find a portrait of Snr. Thomas William Booker, MP, JP, (1801-1858)  i can find no images of his second son of the same name.(1830-1887) Any ideas of where I could look would be gratefully received. If anyone has this family on their tree and have a picture to share,that would be amazing. Over to you brilliant and kind researchers. Many thanks ... and my fingers are crossed.  :)

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