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Northumberland / 1871 Census lookup please - The elusive David Knox
« on: Thursday 14 March 13 21:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I'm looking for David Knox on the 1871 census. I've got him on all the other ones. He was born Oct 1844 in Wooler to parents James and Margaret Knox. In 1861 his address was 295 Cheviot street with his parents, I've located his parents and all of his siblings in the 1871 census but he's not there. The marriage index record for him and his wife Jane Taylor dates Jan-Feb-March 1871, so he'd be married at the time of the census and his firstborn son James Knox was born 1871. I think I've found his wife and son in the 1871 census - in Hetton Northumberland with a 3 month old James Knox, Glendale Wooler district.  ED, institution, or vessel:    11, Household schedule number:    3 ,Piece:    5192, Folio:    4 Page Number:    1 - is that how you reference it?

She's down as Jane Knox and Jane Taylor - she's listed as married but as "agricultural labourers wife"?
So, where is he? Is it plausible that he's gone from being a Blacksmiths apprentice to agricultural labourer to a Blacksmith for Bamburgh castle in 1881 and living in Bamburgh?
If he's gone somewhere, it can't have been for too long because the next child I have for them was born in 1873 in Bamburgh.

Any help you can give me would be much appreciated!

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Occupation Interests / Small Grocer?
« on: Friday 08 March 13 15:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I know I'm probably answering my own question here but what is a small grocer? I have a female ancestor who once widowed was working as a small grocer in a small village in Northumberland. Is that someone who has a small shop or am I taking that too literally?

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Occupation Interests / Blacksmiths - Northumberland area and in general
« on: Thursday 07 March 13 12:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I've tried looking back a few pages but couldn't find a relevant post.

I was wondering if people could point me in the direction of interesting websites or books that would talk about the life of a Blacksmith from the 1790's onwards. The family I'm researching were Blacksmiths in the Borders and North Northumberland region for well over a 100 years. There were 4 generations of the family who worked in Bamburgh as Blacksmiths.

I'm not looking for census or birth/death information for specific people because I have that, rather background reading and maybe extra places to look for additional information

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Northumberland / Knox's/Blacksmiths of Bamburgh
« on: Wednesday 27 February 13 15:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

My family are really interested in finding out about our family's longstanding association with Bamburgh Castle and the Blacksmiths shop at Bamburgh. We know where it is, it's now a holiday home (my husband was actually hired to help renovate it) - I'm just wondering where we can find documents regarding the blacksmiths shop.

We think the first direct ancestor to have the Blacksmiths shop was David Knox, born October 1844 in Wooler/Flodden. We don't know why he moved from Wooler to Bamburgh or indeed anything about his parents, apart from that I think they were called James Knox and Margaret.  In 1881 census he is listed as the blacksmith and living in Village main street. According to the censuses by the time he died in 1891 aged 47, he was a small grocer (is that a shopkeeper?) so we presume he passed the blacksmiths shop onto his son.

I would have thought that the shop would have passed onto James Knox, aged 21 in 1891 who was working there as a Blacksmiths assistant but in the 1901 census he has moved to Newcastle and has become a bricklayer. The blacksmiths shop seems then to have passed onto John Tait Knox (born 1877 Bamburgh) who was the apprentice in 1891. In 1911, he is listed as the Blacksmith. He died in 1945.

Now obviously after this, we don't have census's to rely on, but we do know that the eldest son David Knox (1898), even though he's listed as John Tait Knox's child the speculation always was that he was another mans child and he was treated differently, according to the next generation who I've interviewed. What I do know is he didn't take over the Blacksmiths shop but instead was a bit of a drifter after he got discharged from the army after the war and was only intermittantly in touch with the family.

The Blacksmiths shop actually passed onto the eldest daughter Elizabeth Knox, which I found very interesting....nobody is sure when she actually took it over, it could have been long before John Tait Knox died. There is a photo of her floating around somewhere in full blacksmiths gear. She never married and apparently ran the blacksmiths shop by herself, taking on apprentices.

At some point she retired from being a blacksmith but continued living at the same family home on village main street Bamburgh until her death.

As a matter of interest, we are actually descended from the youngest son, Selby who was born in 1917.

The family are really interested in anything to do with the blacksmiths shop. We would love to know first of all whether the family owned the blacksmiths shop or whether it was leased by the castle to them. We would like to know when our family became associated with the blacksmiths shop, was it the first David Knox (born 1844) or was there a Knox as a blacksmith there before him?
I've looked at the churchyard in Bamburgh and there are a lot of Knox's with quite similar names in the preceding generations in the churchyard, but I've not managed to get back any further.

Also whether the Blacksmiths shop was sold when Lizzie retired or whether it was always the property of the castle. We do know it was in an abandoned condition for about 20 years before it was redeveloped.

Also, I'm really interested in finding out anything about Lizzie/Elizabeth Knox as she's the first female ancestor I've come across who did something I'd consider slightly out of the ordinary (a lot of the females seemed to go into service as housemaids).

Any advice on where we'd find interesting extras (beyond birth/death/marriage certificates) on the history of Blacksmiths in Bamburgh would be really helpful. Even if it's just recommending websites/books. This is the first time I've tried tracing the history of a building and I don't have a clue!

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Northumberland / Trying to find an address
« on: Monday 18 February 13 23:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I'm trying to find the location of 3 Croft Terrace in Bamburgh. It's detailed as the address given in the 1901 and 1911 census for the family that I'm researching (The Knox's). I actually live in the area and have asked locals, got the old ordinance survey maps out from the late 19th century that my FIL just so happens to have in his loft, I've asked members of the local history group on Facebook, tried finding information on the internet, to no avail.

I've only been doing my family tree for 6 months, so I'm still learning research methods and places to look, so sorry if this is a bit of an obvious question, but if someone could pinpoint me on where I should be looking for this address, I'd appreciate it. Is there land records and where would I find them?

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Armed Forces / WW1 photo? Any info? Possible Uniform Lookup please?
« on: Wednesday 26 December 12 00:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Here is another photo found in a suitcase in a family attic this Christmas. It had written on the back "Grandad Hastie" and has a little cross next to what I presume is him. He was born in 1876 in Coldstream Berwickshire and the family thought he'd been too old to be part of WWI, but don't think he was in the army either as he was a farm hand. He would have been 38 at the start of WWI, so not too old to sign up?

If anyone can tell me anything about the photo, I'd be grateful, thank you.


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Armed Forces / Mystery Army Photo - Uniform lookup?
« on: Tuesday 25 December 12 23:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this photo or whether it's of use to anyone? I found a suitcase full of old photos in a family attic this Christmas but no-one knows the significance of this photo. Any information that can be gleaned from it would be much appreciated. Thanks.


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Down / Burial Records in Banbridge/County Down
« on: Wednesday 07 November 12 19:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Everyone!

I'm currently over in Northern Ireland at the moment, visited Banbridge today and the genealogy expert at the tourist office was incredibly helpful.
I know several of my ancestors died in Banbridge and a lot of them married and baptised at Seapatrick Church so I'm presuming that they will have been buried in Banbridge. We visited the church but it was closed and we took a quick gander up to the cemetary at Newry St, but it was getting dark so we are returning tomorrow.
I was wondering if people could help me maximise my time tomorrow because really at the moment we are just wandering around (we've already found the locations of where they previously lived, that took up most of the day).

How do I find burial records to confirm where they were buried?
Is it reasonable to think they would have been buried in the cemetary in Newry st or is there an older cemetary that we should be looking for?

We've got one death record for a Margery Poots, who died in 1906 and in the church box it has the code BBRXDA. Does anyone know what this means?

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Antrim / How to find out cause of Death
« on: Friday 26 October 12 08:50 BST (UK)  »
Hello!

Sorry to keep clogging up the forum with enquiries but this is a very specific one on behalf of my granny. There's a bit of a mystery surrounding his death and she would like to know the cause of his death and if there is any associated newspaper articles/documents about it. I presume it would be his death certificate I'd need to find but is there anything else I should be looking to order or anywhere else it would be prudent to look?

I am going over to Belfast next week so if there's any offices I should be going to or anywhere it would be a good idea to telephone, I'd appreciate the heads up.

If it helps his name was Thomas Hyde, born 1906 in Belfast Antrim. In 1911 he lived in James Street, Shankill. He married a Georgina Ellen Hutchinson Hewitt. My Granny thinks he died in 1968.

Thank you for all your help.

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