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The Lighter Side / Identifying Ancient Egyptian Family Relationships
« on: Saturday 02 November 19 21:21 GMT (UK)  »
   Forget what some Egyptologists claim such as the parentage of King Tut, i.e. King David V of Egypt whose name was Ymn Twt Ankh Hek Iwnw Shma and Throne name was Re HEPREW Neb.   Twt Egyptian was Dwd in Hebrew and this is 'David'.   The Kebra Nagast confirms that this was so.

    One only has to read the hieroglyphs on the back of his chair found in his tomb.   I have placed the meaning of the hieroglyphs on the chair, and what really stands out is TWT MS which was the name of the eldest son of Ymn Htp III (In Hebrew - Salim Amen or Salomon).   This young Prince died when only about 20 years old, thought to be in a War with Nubians.    His tomb has been found, but his coffin and remains are MISSING.   A seal shows that the tomb was opened and resealed in Antiquity and actually has the Seal of the King Ymn Twt Ankh.

     Also on the Chair we can see in a small cartouche his name as King.    BUT THEN, we have a huge ANKH - meaning LIVING - hanging from his arm.

     There can only be one logical conclusion, judging by other researchers who say that there is something unreal about Twt, almost as if he weren't alive.     The priests of Amen led by Joshua (Djoser Heprew Setepenre), later King Horemheb Mery Amen (Miriam), must have 'resurrected' the Dead Prince and proclaimed him to be the rightful King of Egypt just to get rid of the most hated Pharaoh Akhenaten (now known from the Copper Scroll to have been Moses).    It worked.  Akhenaten fled Egypt with only a handful of followers and they hid themselves away at Qumran by the Dead Sea.

      Those Hieroglyphs certainly tell us so much today - though so often the truth is hidden from us with even mistranslations as I have found, not only from Egyptian but from Ancient Greek.

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The Lighter Side / A history of a rogue and ladies man, Grenville MIALL
« on: Saturday 17 August 19 22:11 BST (UK)  »
    For some months a small band of us with distant connections to a certain Grenville Miall have been unearthing the progress of Grenville Miall and what a story it has turned out to be.    It is still not finished because we cannot find out what he was up to in 1871, why he used the assumed name of Walter Charles Washington when he actually did get married in 1873 or whether he was really deceased by 1891.

        Grenville was born in the New Forest Workhouse at Eling Hampshire in the second quarter of 1848.     His parents George Horatio and Jane Miall who had not been long appointed to the positions of Master and Mistress of the Workhouse when on the 9th January 1848 there was something of an uprising in the Workhouse by many of the inmates.   Those who may be interested in the long story of the uprising can find it in the Hampshire Advertiser of 15th January, 1848.    Grenville’s older brother George Pellew Sallaway Miall who was born in 1832 was fortunately not in the workhouse at this time but may have been living with his grandparents in Portsea.

Births Jun 1848
Miall    Grenville New Forest  8  210

         In 1861 the 12 year-old Grenville was living with his brother George P S Miall who at the age of 28 years was a National School Master living at Midhurst near Chichester, Sussex.

        At this point of time we can only guess where Grenville may have been for the 1871 census.  If he was telling the truth when he married Mary Jane Deakin/Dakin in 1873 then he might just have been a Soldier of the 5th Dragoon Guards, stationed at Hulme, a suburb of Manchester very close to Mary Jane’s home in Ardwick.     On the other hand, the name he assumed at that time was totally different for he was calling himself ‘Walter Charles Washington’ and his father, now a Gentleman, had become Horatio Walter Washington.

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The Common Room / Fault in receiving PDF certificates from the GRO
« on: Monday 15 July 19 23:05 BST (UK)  »
  I ordered a death certificate from the GRO last week and this morning I have received their email to say that it has been 'despatched' along with instructions in how to find it and download it.

   Well I have followed these to the letter and get a window which comes up with all the details of my order along with the dates ordered and despatched - the latter being today 16 July 2019.

    But when I click on the 'View PDF' button, all that happens it that this very same page reopens and no matter how many times I click on 'View PDF' button, I only get the same page repeated over and over and no PDF.

    Yes I have filled in their online Error Form, and have received an automated email saying that my complaint has been received - but might take 5 days for them to look into it.

     Has anyone else had faults with the GRO system?   Can it be trusted at all - worried as I have since ordered another pdf certificate.

     

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Australia / Double Identity Mysteries of both Judith Jensen and her father Oluf
« on: Tuesday 18 June 19 02:03 BST (UK)  »
     Some two or three days ago I was looking through photos of my late wife Edith who passed in Cairns in May 2007.    She had told me about one photo in particular of herself and her friend Judith Jensen, both nurses at Footscray Hospital, Melbourne in the early 1950's.    The photograph was taken in Trafalgar Square after their voyage from Melbourne in the Otranto Aug/Sep 1955.   They both went on to Copenhagen which I had always thought to be Judith's home.  Ede worked there as a live in Nanny for some months before going to Scotland where she married her first husband Dick Stewart.

     The passenger list gives Judith Jensen birth date as 31st October, 1931, travelling on a Danish passport, country of last and of future residence, Australia.

      Being inquisitive I decided to see if I could find more about Judith in Ancestry and there is a tree which does have her being born in 1931, but in Australia with her father being Olaf Waldemar Herman Jensen of Copenhagen who migrated to Australia in 1909.    Olaf or Oluf married a Dorothy O'Brien in Melbourne in 1924 and they lived in Newport Melbourne but later on in Williamstown where Judith grew up, went to school and became a Nurse.

      It more or less all fitted in until I found that this Judith Jensen had married Peter Nelson in 1952 and they had a son John born 1954 who died in 1957.   So now it looks most unlikely that this could be the same Judith Jensen, Ede's old friend.    However, remembering that Ede did go to High School in Williamstown as did Judith, I can't help wondering since both born same year, both nurses, both with Copenhagen ancestry.

     I then turned attention to Olaf Jensen and again one public, and two private trees popped up in Ancestry.    A quick look in Family Search and I found his birth registry record, born Oluf Valdemar Herman Jensen 9th February 1890 and baptised there in May 1890.

     There was another Oluf/Olaf Valdemar Jensen born in Copenhagen with an age in 1917 that virtually matches the above.    However I have now looked at all of the first Oluf's war records and they just cannot be one and the same.

      Nevertheless there is more mystery in the war records for these include a letter to the Australian Military via the Danish Consul in Melbourne from an unknown wife in Copenhagen.

    Malcolm

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Parish Registers and Transcripts Bradford St Peters
« on: Wednesday 27 February 19 04:44 GMT (UK)  »
   Would anyone know how many Registers were maintained by Parish Churches, especially in the case of Bradford St. Peter's?

    I had always thought there would have just have been the one main register from which transcripts were copied out and sent to the Diocese Office in York.

    However from comparisons with copies written out by a friend at Bradford Library in 1983 with what looks like the main register entry provided by Ancestry and the Bishops Transcript of the same event, there must have been more copies kept than the one register and the Bishop's Transcripts.

    My friend in 1983 listed everything she could find on my Huttons in the Bradford Register, meticuously.   At that time, and at the Bradford Library she found a number of children born to John Hutton Clothier of Eccleshill and his wife Dorothy.    However when I look at that entry in Ancestry today his wife Dorothy isn't named, nor do any of the other entries on the same page name the mothers.

     I have now found with an earlier baptism that the Bishop's Transcript has more information than the supposedly original register on Ancestry - 'Clthr' for 'Clothier' which just isn't there in what I thought to be the main register.

     Can it be that the real Parish Register for Bradford St Peter's remains in the custody of Bradford Library for safe keeping.   

      If that is the case why cannot Ancestry, Family Search and others like them do the job properly and give us the full family histories?

      Malcolm

     


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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Eccleshill Land Names in the 17th century
« on: Saturday 26 January 19 05:30 GMT (UK)  »
   I am currently doing my best to transcribe pages I purchased from National Archives on a Land litigation between William Hutton of Eccleshill with Edward Ackroyd in 1685.   I can work out all the land names in the dispute for there was what looks like the same dispute a year earlier and the details of that have been transcribed and published on the net from the Cause Case Court.
CP.H.3830
Reference:CP.H.3830
Repository:Borthwick Institute GB 193
Court:Consistory
Case: Tithe (wheat, barley, oats, hay)
Details:13 Pieces; No deposition; Has libel; Has sentence
Outcome:  defendants won
Date:17/7/1684 — 11/12/1684
Participant:Edward   Ackroyd [Aikeroyd;  Akeroyd; Aikroid]
Role:plaintiff
Details:male; yeoman
Location:Calverley (YorkshireWestRiding)
Place(s):Stone Stile (Stonesteele) : undefined
Calverley (Calverley) : ecclesiastical parish
Notes:farmer of tithes
Participant:William   Hutton [Hutton]
Role:defendant
Details:male
Location:Bradford, St Peter (YorkshireWestRiding)
Place(s):Eccleshill  (Eccleshill, Ecklesall, Ecclesall) : undefined
Bradford, St Peter (Bradford) : ecclesiastical parish
Participant:Elizabeth   Fairbank [Fairbancke;  Fairebanck]
Role:defendant
Details:female
Location:Bradford, St Peter (YorkshireWestRiding)
Place(s):Eccleshill (Eccleshill) : undefined
Bradford, St Peter (Bradford) : ecclesiastical parish
Location:Near Middle Field (Neare Middlefeild, Greate Middlefeild, Neare Midlefeild) : fieldname
Location:Far Middle Field (Farre Middlefeild, Farr Middlefeild) : fieldname
Location:Over Fagley (Over Fagley) : fieldname
Location:Johnson's Fagley (Johnson's Fagley) : fieldname
Location:Fletcher's Fagley (Fletcher's Fagley) : fieldname
Location:Walkers Fagley (Walkers Fagley, Aikeroyds Fagley) : fieldname
Location:Calverley (YorkshireWestRiding)
Place(s):Calverley (Calverley) : ecclesiastical parish
Stone Stile (Stone Steele, Stonesteele) : undefined
Location:Milner Close (Milner Close) : fieldname
Location:Cole Pit Close (Cole Pitt Close) : fieldname
Location:Phagleys Close (Phagleys Close) : fieldname
Location:Wood Close (Wood Close) : fieldname
Location:Springwell Close (Springwell Close) : fieldname
Location:Nether Field (Netherfeild) : fieldname
Location:South Field Close (Southfeild Close) : fieldname
Location:Old Leylands Close (Old Leylands Close) : fieldname
Location:Rycroft Close (Rycroft Close) : fieldname
Location:Norman's Plot (Norman's Plott, Norman's Flatt) : fieldname
Location:Meane Close (Meane Close) : fieldname

      One great thing I've learned from all this is that the Church had sold off their rights to collect Tithes to Land owners and Hereditary Tenants who more or less owned the land in many cases.
      This as to be expected led to disputes over who should have the tithes.

      I can tell by a land memorial of 1829 that my Hutton ancestors were intestate but could claim the land because parents, grandparents etc. were there, and the Deeds show them being on the same land called Near Radfield, Middle Radfield and Far Radfield.

      The earliest date on the Deeds is 1712 just 32 years later than the 1685 court case and so I think it possible that Middlefeild (e before i ? ) later on became Radfield.

       Are there any old maps for that 17th century period in Eccleshill?    I think there could be judging by the short example of tithe records which the West Yorks Archive Office have on one of their pages.

        'Farmer of Tithes' -   How can you farm tithes?

 Malcolm

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Land Taxes paid by Hutton's of Eccleshill
« on: Saturday 12 January 19 23:58 GMT (UK)  »
    Is there anyone living near the West Yorkshire Archive Service Bradford, Margaret McMillan Tower, Prince’s Way who could possibly look up the Tax Records paid by Hutton in 1705 to 1708?

     I think and hope that a personal search is free, as it was when I searched Wakefield Records myself in the late 1970's.

    In the past year I have made great progress with these tax records in Ancestry.   Ancestry entitle them as being from 1704 but they have nothing earlier than 1781.

    I have tried to organise a search with Bradford Archive Service, but their payment system kept failing and after some three or four attempts to pay for a search I had to agree to put it off for the time being until they might introduce a new system to receive overseas payments.

    They did confirm that they hold these tax records -

DB5/C10/8a – 1705
DB5/C10/8b/1 – 1706
DB5/C10/8c – 1707
DB5/C10/8d – 1708

      I have a copy of the Deeds to the land in Eccleshill which stretched from The Smiling Mule on Moorside Road, right across the Radfield Crofts which were quarried, to the cottages on Fagley Lane.     I have been able to ascertain who was Head of family and when they died and were succeeded by the next generation just by studying each tax payment for each year from 1781 to 1832 and the 1836 Tithe Map shows that my great great grandmother Mary Hutton still paid for plots numbered 439, 440, 443, 444, and 445 in that year.

     Some 5 years ago I had Wakefield do a land search and they came up with quite a lot, that pointed to the same land being tenanted by a James Hutton and Mary around 1711- 1714.   That agrees with a summary on the Deeds for that time -
      14th February 1712        ASSIGNMNT.    Jas Walker to John Lister and Wm Hutton.
      14th March, 1714           BOND.      Jas Hutton to John Lister.
     But as we can see the 1712 assignment names William and not James.    That makes more sense from the birth and marriage records which mainly name William Hutton Senior and William Hutton Junior of Eccleshill.    James may have taken over the land for a while as he married Mary Lister in 1705!
      I may also learn much more by 22nd January when the National Archives Discovery say they will send me 4 pages on a litigation by William Hutton who in 1685 had a dispute with an Edward Ackeroyd over land in Eccleshill.     
      That might have been sorted by another marriage!    William Hutton married Mary Ackeroyd in November 1686 and their son William was born in December 1686. 

       Something else that is interesting and may help others is that one can tell by the Tax paid how large the property was, or whether it was just a single cottage - tenants are named as well in later years.    For example much of the time the Hutton land off Moorside Road had an annual tax of
 6s 11½d.    But in some years they paid a bit less, like 5s 11½d and a tenant paid between 7d and a shilling for one cottage.     

       Many thanks to anyone who may be able to take a look at these taxes for me,   Malcolm

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 It is very rare indeed that we come across something so beautiful in our research that it has to take precedent over everything that follows.    I knew nothing about John Baron a Poet of Blackburn until he came up in a break-through news report in the Preston Herald 12th December, 1863, about William Lonsdale’s migration to Melbourne.    This mentioned that his brother-in-law was a local poet.    Since we had already found William Lonsdale living with his sister Nancy and her husband John Baron in 1851 it had to be him and this Poem by John Baron comes shining through:
TO NANCY.

                      Oh; listen, fond Nancy;
                      Methinks I could fancy
No other sweet creature that moves here below;
                      Wherever I meet thee,
                      With pleasure I greet thee—
Thy image shall guide me wherever I go.
                      Oh, were I thy true love,
                      My vows I'd renew, love,
And pledge them no more to be broken by me;
                      Then do not despise me,
                      For dearly I prize thee—
My heart, dearest Nancy, is centred in thee.

                      Thy kindred may slight me,
                      Yet, love, I'd delight thee,
If thou would'st go with me to some shady grove;
                      For there would I tell thee
                      What dangers befel me,
When far from thy bosom my fault was to rove.
                      Thy smile like the morning,
                      My dark mind adorning,
Dispels from my soul the thick gloom of despair;
                      Like cyrstal drops streaming,
                      Thine eyes, love, are beaming,
Dispersing a halo which none can compare.

                      Then give me thy hand, love,
                      'Tis all I demand, love,
And angels shall greet us with smiles from on high;
                      No grief shall confound us,
                      When wedlock has crown'd us,
For then will I wipe the dark tear from thine eye.
                      Thy children shall bless thee,
                      And tenderly press thee,
Whilst thou on their lips shall imprint the sweet kiss;
                      And when Death shall smite us,
                      Our God shall invite us
To regions rich-flowing with comfort and bliss.


     The help we now need may lie within records possibly held at Blackburn Library or even the County Court records.     There was an article in the Preston Chronicle June 19th, 1858 under a heading about the Quarterly Meeting of the Members of the Blackburn Philanthropic Burial Society and a sub heading, The Claim of the Friends and Relatives of the late Peter Lonsdale.
     In this dispute we read that Peter Lonsdale’s contribution card was held by a Mary Duerden and she had also been paying his contributions until he died in the Blackburn Workhouse in March 1858.    It went on to tell that Mr John Baron who was also a claimant and a brother-in-law of the deceased, had said that the matter would shortly be tried in the County Court.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Who did Helena and Ethel BAKES belong to?
« on: Saturday 15 September 18 02:14 BST (UK)  »
   Lawrence Massachusetts is very much in our minds today what with the news casts of the massive fire and gas explosions there yesterday.

   My great grandmother's brother James BERRY and his wife Charlotte BAKES with their first 13 children migrated to Lawrence from Eccleshill in 1886.   They had a number of trips back to Bradford and many great great grandchildren still live in Lawrence.    One of them has been working nights and was unaware that the house next door had exploded as he was in a deep sleep when the police called and got him out.

    The purpose of this enquiry though is connected to the eldest son of James and Charlotte, namely Robert Leo Bakes BERRY.     Robert had gone back to Yorkshire on a trip and late in 1891 he married an Amelia SAINT in Leeds.    They travelled back to Boston in the Catalonia November 1891 and then set up home in Philadelphia, rather than Lawrence.    In the passenger list the names that follow those of Robert and Amelia are a Mary Bakes, Helena Bakes and Ethel Bakes.  This was found by an American cousin, a descendant of James and Charlotte who asked how the three Bakes passengers could be connected to the family.

     I had a stroke of luck in finding that Mary Bakes made another voyage to America in 1908 as a tourist and this time we have her home address at 101 Town Lane, Idle which is close to Eccleshill.
Today this address is 'House of Beauty' and from the picture on that website appears to be quite a large detached house.    The passenger list gives her destination in America as 'Phila', so she must have been staying with Robert and his wife.

     But there is no sign of the young ladies Helena or Ethel Bakes in any census nor can I be certain of any birth in or near Bradford for them.   Their was an Ethel Bakes born late 1883 which would make her age of 10 years in 1891 out by 2 years.

     Mary Bakes has to be the daughter of Abraham Kitson who married a Joseph Bakes in 1866.   Sadly Joseph Bakes died around June 1867, hardly a year later and I can't see any issue from that marriage.    In every census Mary Bakes appears as a Widow and usually still living with father Abraham Kitson.    Joseph Bakes had the same grandparents as Charlotte Bakes so that must be how Mary is connected to Robert Bakes and family.

      In 1911 Mary is living with an Orpha Parker, her niece, and daughter of Samuel Parker and Martha (Waddington ?).

       I just cannot find those two young girls.

     

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