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London and Middlesex / Help understanding burial entry: St Martin-in-the-Field, 1771
« on: Friday 28 February 20 22:49 GMT (UK)  »
I’m hoping for some help deciphering the additional text on this burial entry; it’s from St Martin-in-the-Field, Westminster, 1771. I did wonder if I should have posted on the deciphering handwriting board, but it's not so much that I can't read it as I don't understand it. I'm hoping someone might be familiar with these parish registers.

The first line isn't a problem: Ann Fisher from St Ann’s Soho was buried in a vault next to the chancel which was, presumably, near to or under a ‘great bell’. But, can anyone shed any light on the second line, please?

She was an elderly lady, btw, a widow, in case that helps to make sense of things.

Thanks for any help.

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Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Skeffington baptism 1799
« on: Friday 08 March 13 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Would anyone be able to check out a baptism for me please?   I'm particularly interested in any additional info for abode and occupation to try to confirm this is the person I'm looking for.

It's a baptism I've found on the IGI.

Skeffington - 14 Jul 1799 - Sophiah d/o Wm and Eleanor Bailiff

Thank you.

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Monmouthshire Lookup Requests / Abergavenny baptism 1786
« on: Monday 04 March 13 20:39 GMT (UK)  »
Would anyone be able to check for a baptism for me please?

I'm looking for an Elizabeth Parry, and from other information I have I believe she was born 23 May 1786 in Abergavenny.

Her father may be William Parry.

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World War One / 53rd and 52nd Bn West Yorks Regt
« on: Thursday 03 December 09 14:59 GMT (UK)  »
I’m looking for a bit of help, please?

My Grandad Sydney Kirk signed up to the 53rd (Young Soldier) Battalion on the 14th May 1918, enlisted 27th May and was transferred to the 52nd (Grad) Battalion on the 18th June that year.

His WWI service records are online, where he’s indexed as Sidney Kirk, and he left the army in November 1919.

I’ve got a couple of questions, if anyone could help.  Firstly, (as my Dad wasn’t even aware of this), would anyone know where he would have served/been posted, and if he saw any action?

Secondly, there was a family legend that he signed up before he was 18, and possibly even managed to get as far as France before he was found out and shipped home.  I have no idea if there is any truth in that.  When he signed up in May 1918 he was three days past his 18th birthday, and he’s stated on his forms that he had never been in the armed service before.  I can see him trying to join up when he was underage, but would it have been likely that he’d have managed to, and would there be any records that might verify/disprove this?  It seems odd to me that there is this story of him signing up underage, but nobody knew that he’d served 18 months in the army.

I've got my Dad wanting to know more about this now, and don't know where I am with researching military history, so any help at all would be much appreciated.

Jo.  :)

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Selby Cemetery
« on: Wednesday 08 April 09 11:13 BST (UK)  »
Would anyone be able to check for a headstone in Selby Cemetery for me, please?  :)

It's plot no. 3485, Tennant Smith who died November 1914 aged 58 years.

He is listed as a pedlar on his burial and death certificate, so it may well be that they weren't well off enough for a headstone, but others in this family, whilst being only hawkers/pedlars, have had quite grand funerals, so I'm hoping that he did too.

Thanks for any help,

Jo.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Can anyone help read this name?
« on: Monday 06 April 09 20:11 BST (UK)  »
I'm having problems reading the surname of a witness on a marriage cert.

First witness is John Bower, second is Sarah ???

I think it might be Munro but not too sure.  ???

Jo.

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Notts parish reg
« on: Sunday 29 March 09 15:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi, could anyone help with letting me know which parishes the following marriages took place in (so I can get copies of the parish reg entries), please?

Jun qtr 1864 East Retford area
Cornelius Boswell
Sarah Boswell

Mar qtr 1864 East Retford area
Mary Booth
Ever Smith

Jun qtr 1853 Mansfield area
Woodfine Smith

Thanks for any help.

Jo.  :)

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Hunslet Workhouse cemetery
« on: Thursday 19 March 09 13:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I'm looking for some advice.  I have a death cert for a Dennis Smith who died 25th June 1879 in the Union Workhouse, Hunslet, but I could do with some more proof that he is 'mine', so would like to check for any additional info in the burial registers.

Where is he likely to be buried?  Did the workhouse have it's own burial ground?

Any help appreciated.  :)  Also could do with being pointed in the right direction for access to the relevant burial register as I'm not local.

Jo.

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Travelling People / Boswell, Gray, Smith and Booth
« on: Thursday 05 February 09 12:15 GMT (UK)  »
I've got some information on a couple of marriages that I'm sure will be of interest to a couple of people who visit here, so thought I'd post it.  Also, some of the information on them has surprised me and it's raised a few questions.

7th November 1859, Fledborough, Nottinghamshire
Okey SMITH, full age, bachelor, gypsy, residing at Fledborough, father Lazarus BOSWELL, gypsy to Meraniel BOOTH, full age, spinster, gypsy, residing at Fledborough, father Sydney SMITH, gypsy, witnesses were Magnus and Mary Ann SMITH.

OK, Lazarus Boswell is Elijah Boswell who married Harriet Metcalf, and then had liaisons with Alice, Charlotte and Delizanna Smith.  Meraniel Booth's father is a surprise.

Re. Sydney Smith.  I also have an Edingal (sometimes Mary Ann) Smith, father Sidney Smith (nothing more known about him, info from Edingals marriage) who married Sidney Gray, son of William Gray.
Edingal was born c.1830-1836, Thimbleby or Boston, Lincolnshire and she married Sidney Gray in 1873.  She had a son born about 1865, not sure if the father is Sidney Gray or not, William Thomas Gray, who seems to use the surname BOOTH in later life.  So I'm wondering if Sydney Smith, father of Meraniel Booth is also the father of Edingal?  Also Edingal seems to be travelling with Philistia Smith who is another son of Elijah Boswell, so more links back to that family.

14th November 1859, Fledborough, Nottinghamshire
Magnus SMITH, full age, bachelor, gypsy, residing at Fledborough, father Lazarus BOSWELL, gypsy to Mary Ann SMITH, full age, spinster, residing at Fledborough, father William GRAY, gypsy, witnesses were Meraniel SMITH and Samuel SMITH.

Now William Gray as the father of Mary Ann Smith is a real surprise.  William Gray and Tabitha Smith had a daughter, Mary Gray baptised 1st May 1836 at Welton by Lincoln, who would be sister to the Sidney Gray who married Edingal.  But if this is her, why is she going by the surname Smith?

Magnus Smith and his wife are on the 1861 census at Stanley cum Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire, along with a Harkles Smith born c.1830 Rutland, and his family.
Magney Smith head mar 28 peg maker master Derbyshire
Mary wife mar 24 basket maker Lincolnshire
Albert E. son 1 Lincolnshire (deaf)

There's a death for Magnus Smith, aged 30, Gainsborough, Jun qtr 1870.

Magnus dies in 1870, and Edingal, who is sometimes Mary Ann, marries Sidney Gray in 1873???  But the Edingal who married Sidney Gray, and the Mary Ann who married Magnus Smith can't be the same person, (can they?) as their fathers are different.

Okey and Meraniel I can't find on the census before 1901.  They had one child, Mezanuel, baptised 28th September 1854 at Scotter, Lincolnshire.

1901 – Claythorpe, Lincs
Hookey Smith head mar 64 brush maker and rag/bone dealer Retford
Maraniel wife mar 75 nk
Charles son unm 26 Lincoln (imbecile)
William Booth son unm 40 rag and bone dealer Upton(?) Haxey
Hannah Sykes d-in-law unm 35 Crowle
Albert Smith g/son 12 Treswell Notts
Hookey Sykes g/son 8 Crowle
Sementie Sykes g/dau 2m Goole

1911 and William Booth is camping near Goole, he's married Hannah Sykes and his children are Hookey and Senimenty Booth, and his sister Mezaniel Booth aged 56 and unmarried is living with him.  Okey and Meraniel Smith are living at Retford.  Their son Charles is with them and a 51 year old unmarried daughter, Edingirl, born Morton, Gainsborough.  Also a couple of grandsons, although from the age of one I think he should be a son (not sure how much info from the 1911 I'm allowed to post, can post or PM more details if required).  They say they've had 11 children so there's a fair few baptisms still to be found out there.  ::)

There's a Cinamenta (or Minta) Smith on the 1881 and 1891, travelling with her aged father James Booth who I can't help but think are connected somehow, with Okey's grandaughter being named Senimenty Booth.  (Cinementa born c.1828 Thursby Lincs and James Booth born c.1791-1797 Blisworth Northamptonshire)  I was actually expecting Meraniel Booth's father to be James.

A couple of newspaper extracts from the JGLS found via a google book search:

1909 - Another decrepit horse was the cause, a few days later, of Hookey Smith, a Gypsy of Spital Hill, Retford, suing a local hawker for thirty shillings, the amount for which the animal had been purchased.  Smith, who was a very old man and a cripple, had to be carried in and out of the court.

A very late instance of wayside burial by Gypsies is mentioned in the Lincoln Gazette of April 17, 1917. ' Henry Smith, Albert Smith, Okey Booth, Cinaminta Smith and Mary Ingram, or Blade,' were camping at Haxey three weeks earlier, when Mary Ingram gave birth to a still-born child, which Henrietta Smith, Albert Smith, and Okey Booth buried in the lane at night. Next morning these various Smiths and Okey Booth departed, leaving Mary Ingram with Gertie Smith; and later in the day, when Gertie ' called her,' Mary decided to tell the police what she had done, or caused to be done.  Subsequently the child was disinterred, and there...........

(Think Albert Smith, Okey Booth and Cinaminta Smith are the children of William Booth, and therefore grandchildren of Okey and Maraniel)

Any help in untangling this very gratefully appreciated.  :)

Jo.





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