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The Common Room / Ancestry dot com is introducing new Terms & Conditions
« on: Saturday 07 August 21 00:19 BST (UK)  »
Glasgow & West of Scotland FHS has put a notice on FB concerning the actions proposed by Blackstones Inc (the latest owners of ancestry dot com) from 1st Stpember 2021:-

" I cannot over-emphasis how important it is that Ancestry users read these altered terms and conditions relating to the contract they hold with the company. Genealogist Roberta Estes has commented "Clock is Ticking: In 28 Days, Ancestry CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT With Every Image In Your Tree". I have been looking at Ancestry's proposals and it appears that, from the beginning of September, they have the right to use all the photos and personal family information that you may have put on their site. This means that you could see your ancestral portraits appearing anywhere, without your consent or acknowledgement, for all time to come. Old family photos can be valuable and companies like Alamy, Getty Images and many others collect them and may charge for their use. It is unclear at present but you could end up paying to use your own photos! Leaving aside the legal position in the USA, this would appear to breach our own Data Protection legislation. More information on how to complain can be found at

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Bain confessed he married Telford
« on: Wednesday 21 July 21 15:29 BST (UK)  »
I can't read the places of residence, nor the last word and would be obliged for the suggestions of others.

Thanks in anticipation

Ross & Cromarty / Mackenzie of Urray: Joining some more Dots.
« on: Tuesday 13 July 21 19:45 BST (UK)  »
I read yet another Mackenzie book written by another Mackenzie (don't ask me the title) and I feel this book gave a better insight of life in general for several branches.  Excepting for a couple of heads of McK branches, the rest  of the high and mighty were wallowing in debt (been there, done that myself).  What surprised me the most was that whilst some Heads living in the "big house" stayed at home sitting at their writing desks, others left their mansion houses and actually drove their cattle many miles along drover trails to far flung markets hoping to find higher prices, but, as with farming in most centuries, the prices paid for livestock were far lower than hoped for. 

Another fact I gleaned from this book was the other important trade.  In other writings this trade is described in less than generous terms and that is the trade in fish such as salmon and herrings plus kelp, but as I'm from a fishing port myself I know the harvests from water can be generous and profitable if maintained correctly.

The answer to how my Donald M'kenzie (b1775) came to be with John Mackenzie of Strathgarve (- d1788) part owner of Clyde Ironworks, Old Monkland, is hinted at in the place of birth of Don's youngest sibling

DONALD Mackenzie       born   9 July 1775 in Belloan
JOHN Mackenzie            b 26 June 1782 in Laigh Fairburn (posthumous)

Laigh Fairburn = LOWER FAIRBURN is where there were several salmon beats on the River Conon and nearby that river met the River Blackwater, which was on Garve territory.

In one of my other postings I mentioned  that about a couple of decades ago a medium told me that Red Rock Salmon was important to an ancestor.   The place is known for its red stone and salmon.   I'd like to know how large the widow's house was because she might have taken in anglers who wanted short term lodgings.  Donald would be five years old and I can imagine a mother would be telling him to help the gentlemen with their fishing tackle, and to run any errands they might want, etc.   Anyone looking for an apprentice would want a keen youngster to train even if the mother couldn't afford to pay for the apprenticeship.

Additionally, I now think that Donald's father-in-law Donald Mackenzie clerk of Clyde Ironworks was also from Urray.  There were so many M'kenzie highland estates changing hands in the 18th century, I imagine a buyer who wanted to enlarge his own estate would have his own clerk and would let another clerk go.

If anyone has any more dots to add, I'd be happy to make a note of them.

Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Tom & Jack Shearing families
« on: Tuesday 25 May 21 13:25 BST (UK)  »
This 90 year old photo shows a couple of families fading away; especially my mother's Uncle Tom on the lefthand side.

I'm hoping somebody has time to resurrect them.

Attached is the second of the three Millington Springs family outing.

I made the mistake of leaving this on the table instead of leaving it flat in the photo album.  This has resulted in the photo curling with even more of the cellophane coming off the photo paper and my grandfather's face has suffered.

Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Millington Springs 1 of 3
« on: Sunday 02 May 21 15:10 BST (UK)  »
I've been disappointed to find that the cellophane coating on a set of three Ilford film photographs taken on a family outing in Millington Springs, Yorkshire, have started to separate from the photo paper.

I would appreciate some colour being returned to the background.

I've spent alll afternoon trying to tame a couple of photos without any luck and this is one of them.

I hope somebody is able to give back the faces of some of these party goers. I'm thinking of uploading it onto the local town page on FB, where descendants can try to spot their folk.  It seems to me that some young men on this photo will be nearing the end of their apprenticeship and thus would be eligible for being called up to do National Service in either the navy, army or airforce.

The Lighter Side / What a Turn Off !
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 23:57 BST (UK)  »
I'm still trying to trick search engines to produce sight of my own Mackenzie folk and caught sight of part of a letter written by a very self important male Mackenzie-

1789 Nov. 12, Dec. 24. Edinburgh
Letter from Henry Mackenzie to Findlater.".

Mr Dundas's offer to serve recipient; he has spoken to Mr Pitt; writer never thought of being a ministerial agent; the Nairn business and two defaulting tenants there, Bailie Rose and Robie Glass, late dean of guild;
Mrs. Mackenzie recovered from her lying in, but it was only a daughter..

Ross & Cromarty / Mackenzie: Finding Link between occupations and births
« on: Friday 15 May 20 16:17 BST (UK)  »
I'm still on the trail of my blacksmith ancestor Donald Mackenzie, whose children were born in the early 1800s in Lanarkshire, whereas he was born 1775 in Urray, R&C.

His father, or greater family, must have paid good money for his apprenticeship but according to historic documents, the Highland farming crofter scarcely had two coins to rub together.  This might mean that Donald's father earned extra income and I'm hoping rootschatters can put forward some occupations for consideration.

From the Urray Old Parish Register, the place and date of birth is given and from a website I've gleaned the approximate dates when each sibling was conceived.  Below is a list showing places and dates of conceivement/baptism.

One of the births was in Knockroy, which is in Mull.  However, I did somewhere see mention of a Knockroy House in Inverness (Invernesshire?), but I couldn't find any other mention of it.

If Don's father John M'kenzie was himself a blacksmith, why did he keep moving about? Could he have been ex army - couldn't find a steady job and thus travelled around with his blacksmith tools repairing and replacing farming tools.

If Donald's father worked on the land; To a lay person some of the dates look like the end of harvest and/or the end of planting seeds for the next Spring harvest.

I haven't been able to untangle the Lairds of the Manors or what pieces of land they owned, which could mean that Donald's father was sent to various farms by his employer.

If a farmhand or crofter didn't earn sufficient money to pay for appenticeships, I did wonder whether Don's father was hired for short periods as a tutor   

Parents: John Mackenzie and Anne Robertson;  their five children baptised in Urray

JANNET MACKENZIE b17 April 1765 in Balloan, baptised 21 April 1765
(conceived late July 1764)

ALEXANDER MACKENZIE Born 14 July 1770 in Knockroy, baptised 17 July 1770 Urray

I can only find “Knockroy” on Isle of Mull, now overgrown by a forest. (Conceived between 18-26th  October

MARY MACKENZIE born 27 August 1771 baptised 2 September 1771 Urray
 (conceived between 1st - 9th December)

DONALD MACKENZIE b 9 July 1775 in Belloan,  baptised 17 July 1775 Urray
(conceived between October  13-21st)

JOHN MACKENZIE (posthumous) b 26 June 1782 in Laigh Fairburn, baptised 30 June 1782 Urray
Conceived  between September 30 - October 08

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