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Northumberland / Which Reg dist for Port Clarence Completed
« on: Wednesday 11 September 13 08:12 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
I hope I am on the right board. Can someone tell me which Reg Dist that Port Clarence comes under, please.
Vicwinann

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Kezia Batten 1798 and sister Harriet 1790
« on: Tuesday 03 September 13 15:58 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
Can someone please lookup on another census database in 1871 for Kezia and Hannah Batten. They have an entry on familysearch as below  but I cannot find them on the FindMyPast 1871
Eubourn is Enbourne, I am 100percent sure.

Name: Kezia Batten 
Event Type: Census 
Event Date: 1871 
Gender: Female 
Age: 73 
Relationship to Head of Household: Sister 
Birthplace: Eubourn, Berkshire 
Schedule Type: Household 
Registration District: 
Sub-District: 
Parish: St Maurice 
County: Hampshire 
  Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self  Harriett Batten  F 81 Hampstead Marshall, Berkshire 
Sister  Kezia Batten  F 73 Eubourn, Berkshire

Vicwinann

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Sillard/Sellwood in Bedwyn
« on: Friday 30 August 13 23:33 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone have access to Bedwyn BMB's, please? I am trying to find  baptisms that I have been told about but have not as yet been able to prove.
Stephen Sillard
baptism 24 Aug 1740 Little Bedwin Wilts of Stephen and Elizabeth

William Sillard born 1744
Bap 25 Nov 1744 Little Bedwin Wilts

James Sillard born 1754
Baptism 22 Dec 1754 Little Bedwin Wilts

The surname later became Sellwood. Stephen and Elizabeth as above are my brick wall.
Any help gratefully received.
Vicwinann

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Barker and Kent Cookham
« on: Saturday 24 August 13 00:50 BST (UK)  »
Hello
Is there anywhere other than Berks Record Office where I can find Cookham records? If not, is there anyone able and willing to do some lookups for Barker and Kent in said records?
Vicwinann

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Berkshire / John GREENOUGH 1848ish Upton
« on: Friday 12 July 13 21:35 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
Can anyone help me find the origins of John William Greenough, please. I have him back to 1881,  but then I can find no reference of him backwards from there..

In the censuses from 1881-1911 he says he was born in Upton Berks in circa 1848-1851.
I suspect that he may be illeg (or the product of a first marriage), and therefore in the 51/61/71 censuses under another (stepfather's)  name. I cannot find his marriage to a Jane born 1848 North Stoke, Oxon, either.
Greenough is a surname that often gets mistranscribed but I have used up all the variations that I can think of and I don't have parish registers for Upton.
Thanks
Vicwinann

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Berkshire / John Augustus Jones - Ada Priscilla Austin
« on: Thursday 11 July 13 01:42 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,
Can anyone tell me what units might have been based in Maidenhead in 1917?
I have the marriage cert of my great aunt, Ada Priscilla Austin, married to John Augustus Jones in 1917 at Maidenhead St Andrew and Mary.
He was a 33yr old soldier (of Maidenhead) with father John William Jones. The witnesses were Ada's sister, my grandmother, and a John Woods whose name means nought to me.
As John Augustus was a soldier there must have been a reason why he was in/of Maidenhead. The only John Augustus I can find was Welsh but I don't want to spend a fortune on wrong certs, so am trying to find out more before I order it.
I am completely stuck going backwards or forwards so help, please.
Vicwinann

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Sturgess Portsmouth
« on: Saturday 06 July 13 19:06 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
I am trying to find a marriage for Frederick Charles Sturgess and Jane in a church in  Portsmouth or Blandford. This is them in 1901
Frederick STURGESS,  Head  24 1877 Furniture Packer Milton, Hampshire
Jane STURGESS, Wife 28 1873  Blandford, Dorsetshire
They had dau Violet age 5 Portsmouth and son John 10mths Portsmouth (Silas Frederick John)  with them both then and in 1911.
It is Jane's maiden name that I am trying to find without spending out for children's birth certs.
They might not have married, I suppose.
Any help gratefully received.
Vicwinann

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Northumberland / Settlement Certificates and movement of labour
« on: Wednesday 12 June 13 12:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I haven't heard from the administrator so I am biting the bullet and publishing what I have written in answer to some of janfurness's questions. (Under heading  Norfolk farm labourers in the Northumberland/Durham coalfields ) I hope it enlightens and helps other people, too.
Vicwinann

Legal Settlement
A legal Settlement was first centred on the place that you were born and your baptism in the Church register was Proof of Settlement.  That is the reason why so many families were split up if they needed help or got into trouble with the Poor Law Guardians of a “foreign” Board Administration.
Each adult and child was sent back to the workhouse covered by their place of birth or where they had last held Settlement. Poor Law Admins consisted of groups of parishes and you needed permission to move permanently between Admins.
The cost of your welfare when in need was the responsibility of the Poor Law Board of Guardians in the place where you held Settlement. It, and more importantly, the local ratepayers who financially supported it, did NOT want, and did NOT usually allow, support to be given to outsiders, illegitimate children and their mothers, criminals, people who were called “the feckless”, or the workshy. The disabled did not fare much better.
In some instances permission to marry a spouse from another Guardianship could also be refused if the Overseers thought that your would-be spouse would cause a problem if you lived in its area, and ditto the other way round.
Very simply, to gain Settlement in a place other than where you held it by birth, you had to have worked for a year and a day and lived permanently for that time in the new place. Most employers were not happy at having to act as your and your family’s “guarantor” after that time because it could cost them or the Poor Law Board money if you ever needed support. Contracts were usually for a max of 50 weeks, hence the annual Mop and Employment Fairs where you went to be re-employed.
Employers got round the problems of the Poor Law by  laying workers off for a week or two and then re-employing them -  or not. If not, and a tied house was involved, which it usually was, you were out on the street and if no new employer in the offing, you had to apply to the Board for relief.
Day workers, even if they had a Settlement Cert were particularly vulnerable, employment wise, and there were a great many of them.
Getting Settlement in a new place could be granted even if you did not fully qualify. Your would-be new employer could guarantee your character, cost of welfare, etc. This happened usually when workers (both skilled or labourers) were in short supply, as we have been discussing; or when a particular worker was head hunted (artisans and high class domestic and estate staff); or occasionally when someone else (maybe a relative) was prepared to be guarantor and support you if need be.
The other reason behind Settlement was, as you say, Jan, to control vagrancy which was rife in some places. Coupled with the curfew laws, one had to be back in one’s own home after dark or have a very good reason for being abroad. You could end up in the nick or workhouse if you were caught on the road after curfew. Ie. If you went to visit someone further away than a couple of hours, you could be in trouble if you were not back in time. An overnight stay was not in the everyday run of things a practical proposition for most people.
Parts of the Poor Laws were still in force until the late 1920’s.
I have only touched on some of the very swingeing restrictions placed on ordinary people by the Poor Laws. I hope I haven’t bored anyone. It is a wide-ranging, but fascinating, subject which still has echoes in the legislation and behaviours in our modern society.  As you can imagine, the Laws were as open to abuse from all sides as similar ones are today.



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Oxfordshire / FIDLER Checkendon 1901ish baptism
« on: Friday 26 April 13 20:23 BST (UK)  »
Hello
Does anyone have access to Checkendon registers, please? I have a copy of the fiche from OXFHS but it is so faint that it is unreadable. I am looking for the baptism of Ivy FIDLER, dau of Thomas and Rosa, in 1901ish. Any other mention of Fidlers might also prove useful although I  think they were only there for a few years
Thanks.
Vicwinann

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