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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / finding ggrandfather's bio father
« on: Tuesday 12 March 24 18:45 GMT (UK)  »
I am very new to DNA testing and have only a very basic knowledge so please forgive me if I get some things wrong!
My paternal ggf was illegitimate, born in 1849, family story is that the culprit was an Italian Count  ;).
In an attempt to try and find the real bio father I have been looking at those DNA matches in the region of 4 to 6th cousin, then eliminating those who have a provable link to my researched lines.
I have found (so far) 4 other matches who have no common ancestors with me, but all have one common ancestor who was living in the same area, at the right time. He was married and had named his son (born the year before my ggf) the same two names as my ggf.
DNA matches show a 4th cousin 1%- 72cm, other 4-6 cousin 43cm

Is this sufficient to consider that this individual is the missing father?
I have looked for bastardy orders etc, but as my ggmother married 2 years later I doubt this was pursued.
Is there anything else I can do? I have contacted one of the cousins so that they can check both trees to see if there  is any other links.
Ruth 

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London and Middlesex / Bartholomew Quigley
« on: Saturday 24 April 21 17:07 BST (UK)  »
I'm trying to trace the death of my 5xggrandfather, Bartholomew Quigley.
He married Anne Johnson in 1759 and had at least 3 children. They were all baptised in the Non Conformist church. It would appear that he was in Newgate prison as a debtor from 1785 to 1789.

I have details of his children but his death eludes me (his wife died in 1786)
Can anyone help? I have checked FindMyPast , Ancestry, and Family Search but am not very familiar with London Records :)

Ruth

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Other Countries / Edward Samuel Ben DeRusett born Simla 1865
« on: Sunday 11 April 21 14:27 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to find any trace of the above. I have his baptism in Simla India in 1865. I have details of all the rest of his family, and I know they stayed in India. His sister Jane Sophia was my great grandmother. 
I don't know when he died but I suspect it was after his father's death in 1875. A book excerpt indicates that his older brother Charles William Francis gave up his inheritance to his sisters and brother. I have looked in Fibis, FindMyPast, Ancestry and Family Search to no avail. I doesn't help that De Rusett is spelt in many different ways!!
Can anyone suggest any other avenues I might explore?

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Derbyshire / Isabel or Elisabeth?
« on: Monday 08 February 21 17:19 GMT (UK)  »
Has anyone come across these names being interchangeable?
I'm trying to sort out my Trevis/Trevise ancestors from Little Rowsley. John Trevis who died in 1710, had a wife called Elizabeth so named on the Probate administration papers. I can't find a relevant marriage for him.
He had 6 children (I think)
Mary 1685
Elizabeth 1688
Elizabeth 1691
Isabel 1695
Henry 1700
John (bapt not traced)

In the admin papers Elizabeth is charged with bringing up Isabel. Henry and John, because they are under the age of majority.
Her signature is witnessed by Caleb Stubbing who is married to Mary Trevis (marriage 1710). So far so good!
I had thought that Elizabeth died and was buried in 1721 (PRs show her as daughter of Isabell Trevise) I now think this was  sister Elizabeth
 There is a will of  Isabel Trevis of Calow in 1728.
In this will she leaves bequests to her daughter Mary (wife of Caleb Stubbing), Sons John and Henry, and names Caleb and Isaac Cowley as Executors, described as sons in law.  (Isaac Cowley of Brampton married Isabel Trevis at S Wingfield in1726). The name on the will is clearly Isabell!
  Does my theory hold water or am I clutching at straws?
I welcome any comments - I have checked original documentation where possible!!
Sorry for the long post. :)



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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Staveley family of KIrkburn
« on: Sunday 24 January 21 16:01 GMT (UK)  »
I have traced my family back to Isaac Staveley born@1718, and have all relevant details about his wife and children .
However I am struggling with his parents. There are a number of trees on Ancestry that consider his parents to be Robert Staveley b1673 in Millington and mother Frances Harrison.
There is also a Robert Staveley born@1682 marrying Elizabeth Jefferson in Lund on 19 Sept 1703 which seems to be a better fit. His age is shown on the banns application, but I can't find a relevant birth/baptism. Can anyone help?  Justification for either couple would be great !!

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Derbyshire / Henry Milner born August 1793
« on: Friday 11 January 19 18:17 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to trace the parents of the a/n buried with his wife (Mary) in Edensor church yard. I believe they married in Darley (Wife Mary Seales or Scales). I strongly suspect that Henry's father is a sibling of Edward Milner (married to Mary Davenport)

To save time and effort I have the Darley Dale PR's and have searched diligently for a baptism that would fit but the only one I can find is Henry  the son of Edward who was baptised in 1792. This is my ancestor who subsequently married Bridget Travis.

Can anyone out there help please?

I have almost all the generations from 1640 through to 1800s but this is eluding me.
Interestingly this Henry's son was the renowned Landscape architect Edward Milner!

 

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Derbyshire / George Fielding Darley Dale
« on: Sunday 13 August 17 17:09 BST (UK)  »
My ancestor George Fielding (b 1766) , died in his own bed in 1837 ( Visitation of God!)
However I have found a newspaper article from 1831 which describes how a George Fielding aged 66, from Darley was indicted and found guilty of stealing two sheep. The sentence was"judgement of death"   In the report the prisoner says his name is George Needham of Darley Abbey.
Is there any way that I can confirm which name is correct?
The age and location fit my ancestor, but as he died of natural causes at home I have my suspicions that it was mistaken identity. Either that or his sentence was commuted.
Are there any Derby assizes records available ?

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Derbyshire / Robert Barker Darley/Rowsley
« on: Wednesday 25 January 17 16:03 GMT (UK)  »
I think I am now at a standstill with this line, but am putting this query on here in the hope of a miracle!

Robert Barker is my 12 x ggrandfather. He was married to Lettesse and died in 1619. I have his will in which he names all his living children including Elizabeth bapt 1579 and Alys his eldest daughter born before 1579 (no trace of bapt). I am trying to trace his birth/baptism, or his marriage.

There are other Barker families living in the vicinity namely
Thomas and Marie Heathcote who had a son Robert but he was bapt in 1573 (so too young to be "my" Robert) and
Henry who married Joane Tipping in 1577.

I suppose it is possible that they were three brothers.
 I have scoured the Darley PR's and have looked through what is available online from the Derbyshire Archives. Can anyone suggest a way forward  or should I be thankful I have got this far back?  :)


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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Beswick/Besswick/Bosswick Snainton
« on: Thursday 10 November 16 16:27 GMT (UK)  »
I have a problem relating to my ancestor William Beswick that I hope someone can help with.
He was born in Snainton in either 1710 or 1713. At this stage I am not too concerned about his date of birth.
In trying to trace his marriage I found an entry on the Marriage licence index dated 15 July 1736 (parish Brompton by Sawdon-his local parish) for marriage to Isabell Storry aged 21. William was aged 25.
Subsequently he baptises 3 children -
Ann bapt 1736, dies 1736
William 1739,
Mary bapt 1740 dies 1741

In June 1740 William buries his wife Isabel, then (I think) marries Ann Nessfield in January 1740 (this was when the year ended in March!)

His wife Ann, son William and other children he subsequently had with his second wife are mentioned in his will when he dies in 1792


However the only actual marriage I can find for Isabell is an Isabell Storry marrying FRANCIS Beswick at Hutton Buscel (only a short way from Brompton/Snainton) on 7 June 1736

Do you think that there were two Isabell Storrys both marrying Beswicks in the same year and locality?
I realise that both were common names. Anybody got any ideas?

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