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The Common Room / solving mysteries from Baptism Records
« on: Thursday 28 October 21 09:36 BST (UK)  »
 Has anyone else come across children being baptised out of chronological order
 did they turn out to be children placed with the family or child of another family member . * The case for a Birmingham family im looking into * (modified)
it is Hard to prove if birth was registered under new parents name but may show up in DNA anomolies.

I am currently investigating a London  family where 7 children born 1898-1911
were baptised in different years .
5 baptised in 1906
3 together in a group baptism
 but first child in a later month and
 5th child the month after him
child 6 and 7 were baptised separately within 2 years of birth
but there may be another reason for this first child to be baptised out of order .

THE Mystery of my own  Birkenhead grandma's birth father was solved by the middle name on birth certificate ..interestingly middle name on baptism was different
for others that can be clue
some helpful vicars even write child of giving fathers name .

im particularly interested in England  1900-1906 era because i was involved in researching a baby placing scandal which involved babies from Ireland and wales placed in towns all over Britain

have you had any such examples ?

London and Middlesex / BUSH SQUIBB workhouse children
« on: Wednesday 27 October 21 11:26 BST (UK)  »
ellen elizabeth SQUIBB 1875 london
  m charles BUSCH b austria
1911 census has them as having 7 children 1 died

3 are with them
 robert charles  13 ,born london poplar
Elsie Lillian  5 +,born bethnal green
george Frank 2 born bethnal green london

son alfred B 1900 was in a convalescent school in Brighton

another child
 sydney A Bush was born in dec 1911

so there should be another living child in 1911

There is also an Emily Jane Squibb b 1890 d in work house 1891
on trees she is down as Ellen Squibbs sister or half sister ( Ellen's father George Squibb died 1887).

i wondered if she could have been 15 year old ellens daughter

later some used  BUSH spelling

 2 little BUSCH  girls in London Workhouse  May  1906 could also be theirs

 Louise b 1902  released to mother and
 Henriette b 1904 died May 11th.

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / dont dispair of non matching 4th cousins
« on: Monday 25 October 21 23:19 BST (UK)  »

thanks to a very interesting post which gadget shared
ive been looking at my dna matches on my scottish side which do not match my paternal aunts DNA

there are a cluster shown as 4-6th cousin level who match each other and me from a range of 22cm to 37 cm

the top 2 matches = 1 other  have closed trees
3 have trees that have less than 30 people on

two showed up as having thr lines  back to john ROBERTSON my 5th times great grandfather but with such a commo surname i would not like to validify the accuracy of the chosen thru lines

however the closed trees did show a connection to Cambuslang and glasgow regions where my ancestors lived and the highest match also matched my 2nd cousin

if the thru lines are correct one is my 6th half cousin and one is my 5th cousin

and i think another could be connected thru john Robertsons mother jane SCOBBIE 1740 as she has that surname in correct location in 1780.s

which I believe proves that Ive inherited a bit of my fathers DNA which didnt go to his sister + that not sharing 3rd great grandparents dna does not mean that they are not related as my aunts grandparents are definitely my great grandparents so all the way up the lines we have the same relations .

i suppose its easier to prove a positive than a negative .

Occupation Interests / Chimney SWEEP's apprentice age 8
« on: Sunday 24 October 21 23:19 BST (UK)  »
1841 Lanarkshire Scotland
William KYLE aged 8  ,app chimney sweep ( badly transcribed ive not seen original)

+ Robert GRAY 15    J chemney sovap
Could that be junior chimney sweep ?

Elizabeth BLACK 15, FS + Mary BLACK 13 occupation ;shews
Were all staying with

 james CAMERON age 25 Chemney Sweep
And wife + baby

How long would a chimney sweep apprenticeship last ?

William Kyle emigrated to Australia with his parents and siblings just after the census and seems to have become a prominent civil servant.


i have 6 dna matches to my scottish  great grandparents thru 2 of my grandfathers sisters
 so none with paternal surname .

also no matches furthur back with surname . im wondering if there could have been a break in the line non paternal event or adoption of a child as

however my aunt does match 2 people thru one of this great grandfathers brothers .

going up a generation i only get one extra thru line  match  to descendant of a half uncle of my grandfathers mother  KYLE

up to 3 x great grandparents again extra matches only through  the KYLE father in law FLEMMING

why  are there lots of matches to this line and not the others

any theories ?

The Common Room / who was William Murlin DEMPSTER adoptee .
« on: Saturday 23 October 21 12:48 BST (UK)  »
William Murlin Dempster an 11 month old baby born Greenock scotland in 1881 cramlington Northumberland.Recorded as adopted son of john harris miner and mary (Lithgow)
.i cant find  his birth or death or whereabouts  later.

John  Harris died in a pit accident in 1881

United States of America / Freedman Bank Records
« on: Tuesday 05 October 21 11:17 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know what Freedman Bank Records referred to
Ive seen references before but just with a name
Now ive found 1870 records for 2 brotjerz with their address age and name of Father
I wonder if it could be an account to pay for their schooling .

Surprisingly mothers name is listed as unknown

Other Countries / Understanding Lithuanian records .years recorded+ when ages given or not.
« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 07:06 BST (UK)  »
I can only see transcripts
*this Lithuanian record has Doba DOBKIN
As the only person without age given .
Clicking on her profile
Wife of Izrel DOBKIN
But further on list
Dina-ShifraFELMAN. Is also listed as  wife * could it just be married woman in his household

There are two heads of household listed so i wonder if it is a mistranscription .

* The years dont make sense if it is a census from 1876 why are the dates of last 2 children after that?

United States of America / Hebrew Orphan Asylum Records
« on: Wednesday 29 September 21 05:28 BST (UK)  »
3 ZAREF   siblings were admitted to this institution #1912 ;their father Alexander passed away 1909

Irving b 1902 & Rose & Harry b.1912 are listed
As having a 13 year old sister Bella

+ Mother Ida
Can anyone read what the reason for her not being able bto look after them is and the address given

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