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Hi all,

I'm wondering if anyone can help me find a family on the 1851 Census. The family I'm interested in is

John FISHER b1810 Bath Somerset, Butcher
and his daughter Emily FISHER b1836 Bath, Somerset

I have found them in Bath in 1861 (RG9/1690/27 page 2) - its just the two of them and John is a widower.

In the 1841 they (along with John's wife Diana and other children John 6, Mary 3 and Sarah 1) were in Cold Ashton, Gloucestershire (HO107/363 ED 7 Folio 4 pg3).

The most likely 1851 family I have been able to find is in Finsbury, Middlesex (HO107/1522/346 p17). That family has widower John, and children John 16, Sarah 11 and Kate 10 and is mistrancribed as Falker. However given the distance and no Emily, i'm not certain that it is them.

Any help very much appreciated

Hi everybody,

Does anybody have any ideas what this place name might be? My first thought was that it might be a misspelt Crondall, but the first letter really doesn't look anything like the other C's on the page.

Oh, if it helps, this is from a shipping register upon immigration to Australia (i.e. no guarantees that the writer was familiar with the place). Unfortunately I have no other information that might help.

Thanks

TN

Hi everyone,

Today I received the (English) birth cert of my G-Grandmother's sister, Alice Annie WATTS. I ordered this to help resolve the confusion explained in this thread: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,506754.0.html

This certificate contains both parent's names, as well as the father's occupation. These details match what is known about the family (Charles and Eliza Watts, Charles a bootmaker). Eliza's maiden name isn't listed - she is "Eliza Watts, formerly          ". Eliza was the informant.

What's interesting though is that Charles's name, the word 'formerly' in the mother's name column and the father's occupation have all been crossed out. The numbers '8', '9' and '10' have been written next to each piece of crossed out data. On the far left of the cert, to the left of entry number, the words "eight 111", "nine 111" and "ten 111" are written. 111 Is the entry number. It's possible there's more text on the left that I can't see.

Has anybody ever seen/ordered a certificate like this? I'm going to call the certificate services people to see if someone there can have a look to see if there's any text in the margin/below that's been cut off. Have any of you ever had any luck with that?

Also, what do you think it means? I suspect that it could suggest that Charles and Eliza were never married. Is it true that where the parents aren't married, the father's name can only be listed if both parents agree and are joint informants? If they weren't married, it would explain the difficulty I've had tracking down a marriage...

Thanks

Hi All,
 
I’ve come up against a bit of a brick wall and I’m keen to see what some of the others who love a challenge think.
 
I’m interested in the family of Richard and Letitia/Lydia/Elizabeth Burgess. A quick run-down of them in the various censuses can be found here: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,241968.msg1317076.html
 
I just ordered the birth cert of one of the children, and the mother, who was also the informant, gave her name as Letitia Burgess formerly Barrett.
 
Only problem is, I can’t definitively find the marriage between Richard and Letitia anywhere. I can’t find them together on the 1841, so my running theory is that they are likely to have been married after that. Also, the fact that the earliest child I know of was born in 1842/43 and has the father’s name seems to suggest no earlier children.
 
There is a possible marriage in St George in the East in January 1843 between Richard Burgess and Letitia Forbes. The location is about right (St George in the East), and the marriage does identify Richard’s father’s name as Richard (it is). However, Letitia Forbes is listed as a spinster, daughter of Thomas Forbes.
 
No other marriage I can track down – either before or after 1841 – seems to clearly be these two. I also haven’t encountered another Richard/Letitia Burgess couple in the east end of London at this time my research (although that’s not to say that there weren’t others). Also, no clear hint of a christening/baptism for either a Letitia Forbes or Barrett in Woolwich, Kent, at about the right time.
 
Anybody else have any other ideas about what to make of all of this and where I can look next?
 
Thanks!