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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1814 will and beneficiaries
« on: Saturday 06 April 24 09:53 BST (UK)  »
I've attached part of a will of Thomas Fullerton Warren from the Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, probate date 7 Jan 1814.  He was born in Jamaica but died in London aged 33.

I'm finding it difficult to decipher some of the details of who benefited and from what.

Background: He was a son of Revd Thomas Warren (rector and clerk, St Elizabeth, Jamaica, who died only a few years earlier) who was a plantation and slave owner.  T F Warren's sisters Harriet and Mary Ann or Marianne were also born in Jamaica (along with other siblings) but died in London in 1861 and 1859 respectively at Portman Square. 78 and 80 years old. Harriet is on the 1861 census in Portman Square.  There is some info on Rev Thomas Warren and Thomas F Warren on the website for the Centre for the Study of the Legacies of British Slavery at UCL ( https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/21466536350 ) where it mentions ownership of Brompton Pen and an estate, Lacovia, in Jamaica, and the contents of T F Warren's will leaving his real and personal estate in Jamaica in trust for his sisters.

I'm more interested in Richard Ryland the uncle as I can't find the relationship between the two.  Unless he wasn't strictly an uncle - perhaps a great uncle or another relative?

I can read that T F Warren has bequeathed sums of money to his aunt Mrs Mary Brown and his uncle Richard Ryland of Savage Gardens, London, but I can't decipher the words that appear before 'uncle Richard Ryland Esquire..' or after the words 'five hundred pounds'.

I can see names such as someone's daughter Mrs Emily Ryland, and granddaughter Harriet Fitzgerald of Reverend Thomas Coxton (?) late of Jamaica.

Also a servant James Williams getting an annuity for the rest of his natural life, and his wearing/training (?) apparel and some other items/stipulations that I can't decipher but seems to take up a lot of space!

It then moves on to his four sisters, Elizabeth Sarah Henkell, Dorothy Owen, Harriet Warren (but can't see Mariann - she might be on the next page).

I'll post another snippet from the next page that also mentions Richard Ryland.





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Other Countries / Jamaica: Flora du/da Costa WAYLAND parents
« on: Friday 29 March 24 11:33 GMT (UK)  »
I have a puzzle from a family I'm looking at and wonder if anyone can shed light on it?  It is touched on in another thread https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=881212.0

NB Wayland appears transcribed variously as Mayland,  Magland, Hayland, Wagland.

Jan 3 1856 - St Pancras. William Robinson Wayland son of Abraham, gentleman, married Charlotte Harriette Croft Ryland daughter of Octavius Ryland, dead (although he wasn't as he had earlier been transported to Australia for life for blackmail).  This marriage failed as Charlotte is in later censuses as a widow living in a household in Highbury New Park.

Flora du/da Costa WAYLAND first appears in the records when baptised on 12 Sep 1861 (birth stated as 10 Mar 1860) in St Paul's chapel, Marylebone.  William Robinson Wayland (a govt clerk) and Charlotte Harriette Croft Wayland (1831-1883).  Abode. 7 Park Place, Clarence  Gate, Regent's Park.  I couldn't find her in the GRO records.

Flora then appears in 1871 census at a school in Richmond (Apsley House?) as F Wayland scholar (transcribed daughter) age 11 born Jamaica. Head of household was Anne Haywood.

In 1881 she appears at Ismeer, Willesden, as a visitor, 21, born Kingston, Jamaica, in the Machin household.  Her name transcribed as Flora de Costa Mayland.

On 19 Oct 1882 she married Harry Machin, age 22, stating father Walter Ransom Wayland, govt official. Harry son of Frederick - both wholesale confectioners.  Her abode is Highbury New Park (the home of Charlotte H C Wayland in the Broome household, and where Charlotte died).

A newspaper report states:
Machin-Wayland  Oct. 19 at St Mark's, Hamilton Terrace, N.W.,by the Rev. G. Colesworth, M.A., Harry,eldest son of Frederick Machin, Esq., of Ismeer, Willesden to Flora Da Costa, only surviving child of the late Walter Ransom Wayland of Jamaica.

Meanwhile Isabella Augusta Joliffe (nee Wayland) was born 15 Jul 1860 (in the 1939 register according to Bethanyyd96 - although I have a sub I couldn't see this dob).  Her marriage cert 27 Nov 1880 states her age as 21 and William Robinson Wayland, gentleman, as her father. 

If Isabella's and Flora's birth dates are correct, then was Isabella actually the daughter of Ada Matilda WOODS, who William Robinson eventually married in 1878. They had five children - four of these GRO records show Woods as MMN. The first, Ada Rebecca Wayland in 1857 has no MMN given. 

In the 1871 census, Isabella and the other children are listed in the same household as William R Wayland and Ada Matilda Wayland. So Isabella probably was Ada's. 

What was the Jamaica connection?  Ryland or Wayland or both?  Was William Robinson Wayland in Jamaica at all, or Charlotte HC Ryland (the one born in 1831) and where does the Du Costa middle name come from for Flora. The name of her mother, father or godparent?  Did Walter Ransom Wayland actually exist?

Comberton found a Jamaica connection in a Dec 1883 newspaper report for the Rylands - Charlotte HC Ryland. As Octavius Ryland’s daughter married Wayland in 1856 this reference is presumably to John Croft Ryland’s daughter of the same name born 1820 and I think never married.  She's single in the 1911 census.

Hope someone can help unravel this!









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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Names of witnesses?
« on: Wednesday 27 March 24 22:38 GMT (UK)  »
I can read most of this but the witnesses are difficult. I think they are James A or O Heltham and J Hooper someone. Can anyone decipher this scratchy writing please?

The H looks like the H in St George Hanover Square. The O of Register Office looks a little like the middle initial for the first witness.

The groom is William Robinson Wayland (father Abraham, Baptist minister) and bride Ada Matilda Woods (father Edward Woods attorney).


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Name of hamlet in London marriage records
« on: Tuesday 19 March 24 21:59 GMT (UK)  »
There is a John Croft Ryland marrying Maria Rebecca Harris (looks like Narris) 10 July 1808 in a set of London records for St Dunstan and both are shown as of this parish + hamlet of ?

Can anyone decipher ? please? It looks like same word in the other entries too.

I’ve taken a screenshot but the file is too big - it’s in this record set on Ancestry: London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Charlotte Harriet Croft WAYLAND nee RYLAND born 1831
« on: Saturday 16 March 24 10:41 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone can shed light on the fate of Charlotte's marriage to William Robinson Wayland (son of Abraham Wayland) please?

She was daughter of Octavius Ryland (born 1800 and transported to Australia in 1850 for attempted blackmail) and Mary Ann Muggeridge born 1826.  Charlotte was baptised Aug 1831.

Confusingly there is another Charlotte H C Ryland - born 1820, daughter of John Croft Ryland (a brother to Octavius) and Maria Rebecca Harris/Narris.

Charlotte Ryland married William R Wayland in 1856.  They had two daughters, one born in 1859, (Isabella Augusta - possibly born overseas) and the other (Flora da or du Costa) born 1860 in Jamaica. Flora was baptised in London, England, in 1861.  Subsequent records show William R Wayland in England.

Then William R Wayland married Ada Matilda Woods in 1878 and they had 5 children.

However the records show Charlotte H C Wayland didn't die until 1883 if I have searched correctly.

Is there a record of a divorce anywhere?  William was a civil servant and had the freedom of the city of London via patrimony so would have had the money/influence I assume to afford a divorce.  Charlotte was the grandaughter of Harriet Frances Croft, and ggranddaughter of Sir Archer Croft, 3rd Baronet of Croft.  Possibly also influence if not money.

If there was a divorce, might there have been a newspaper article about this?

Thanks for reading.




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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help with an abbreviation related to indentures please
« on: Thursday 14 March 24 09:51 GMT (UK)  »
Could anyone please tell me what the abbreviation dc is on lines 4, 5 and 6?

The document is from UK, Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures, 1710-1811, City (Town) Registers 1786 Feb-1788 Aug.

Line 4, Seth Wayland is a master currier, and shown as City of Bath Co of dc.  This abbreviation is on some other lines too and twice on line 6.

I take it to mean he is either a Freeman of the city of Bath, and a member of a honorary company of a particular trade/guild, or could be that his business is based there?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help with indentures please WAYLAND
« on: Thursday 14 March 24 08:56 GMT (UK)  »
Please could you decipher part of this handwriting in a 1st March 1780 indenture?

'Daniel Wayland Son of John Wayland late of Frome in the County of Somerset [occupation or placename? something maker? edit: Cardmaker? The C is similarly sweeping to the C of County] deceased .....Spencer Burgess of Ratcliffe [something] in the county of Middlesex Ship Chandler and Tinplate Worker'

I'm also baffled as to why Spencer Burgess is a citizen and goldsmith of London when he is a ship chandler and tinplate worker but Daniel clearly becomes one himself and then his sons, and their sons, just by being his family.  So occupation nothing to do with it and it is purely a Freedom of the City status.  But there is a company of Tinplate Workers.

There are plenty of documents showing the Waylands in effect inheriting this status in Ancestry's Freedom of the City admissions section, including these indentures.  And they are incredibly useful too as they show relationships, date of birth, and where born, so I've been able to build up the male line.  But the results don't appear prominent when I do a general search on a name - going to the card catalogue for this database is much more successful.

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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / CALDWELL family from England to N. America c1893
« on: Monday 19 February 24 18:16 GMT (UK)  »
This cross references with this post https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=880505.0

I'm looking for Ivy Isabel CALDWELL, who gave her father as William C and mother as Jane(t) Brown to the U.S. authorities at some point.

She married in the USA in 1914 to Robert Barber Goodman, lumberman, and in the 1920 Federal census her immigration date is unknown, but in 1930 it is given as 1893.  Accurate? She is listed as born in England, with English-born parents. She gives 1891 as her year of birth but I can't find this at all, only William C and Jane Brown marrying in Wakefield in 1891, and Ivy Caldwell born Settle 1892. Which may or may not be her.

I can't find her or her parents in any US census, and can't find them on passenger lists separately or as a family. I have wondered if they travelled to Canada first.


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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« on: Monday 19 February 24 10:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hope you can help? 

I'm looking for Ivy (sometimes Ivy Isobel) Caldwell's birth in England in 1891. 

According to US census records, she was born in 1891 and immigrated to the US in 1893.  Married Robert Barber Goodman, a lumberman, in 1914 but I can only see the marriage index so little extra detail.  Later divorced and married Raymond J Plunkett.

One census stated 'unknown' date of immigration, so 1893 might be a guess by her.  Her age varies a bit between censuses too, so 1891 could be wrong too.  I haven't found her in a Caldwell family on a passenger list yet.

A US social security transcript states she was a child of William Caldwell and Janet Brown (Janet seems too modern a name so it could be a transcription error?), but I've found a marriage with Jane Brown registered in Wakefield in Q1 1891, which is why I've posted in the West Riding board.. However I wonder if Jane Brown wasn't her birth mother.

I can find an Ivy Caldwell with a birth registered in Settle in Q3 1892, with MMN of Kelly, and there is a William Caldwell marrying an Emily Kelly in Rochdale in 1889.  There is an Emily Caldwell dying soon after, but then there is also an Emily Caldwell born in the area so without getting a lot of certificates it's hard to know.

The other Ivy (Olive M) Caldwell, born Greenwich, appears in various records continuing to live in England so she is not the right Ivy.

Of course, her birth may not have been registered as Ivy or Isobel and these were just her favoured names or nicknames, which does make it more difficult!  And she may have invented/guessed parental names too if something happened to them when she was quite young, so she never knew their exact names.

Edit - posted on the immigration board too https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=880516.0

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