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World War One / Conscription question
« on: Saturday 24 August 19 12:51 BST (UK)  »
Please forgive me if this topic has been previously aired.

My interest in the workings of conscription relate to a particular man who volunteered to enlist on 22 March 1915 but who was rejected because he failed his medical.

My understanding is that, because the reason for his rejection related to a significant permanent disability, he would have been told in 1915 that he was unfit for any military service.

In the light of this, would he still have received call-up papers in 1916 simply because he was eligible by age or was a register maintained at his local recruitment depot for all such rejected volunteers - so that their names could be weeded out to prevent the unnecessary issue of call-up papers?


The Common Room / 1939 Register annotation
« on: Sunday 14 April 19 10:33 BST (UK)  »
I have just been looking at the 1939 Register entry for a man whom I believe may be my grandfather.

Just to the left of his entry appears this annotation: I.C. (although the I could just as well be a 1)

It looks to me as if this was written at the same time, and by the same hand, as the name & date of birth were entered and it is therefore not a later addition.

Might anyone have an idea as to what the annotation I.C. (or 1.C.) was meant to indicate?


World War One / Rejected Volunteer
« on: Sunday 08 July 18 21:28 BST (UK)  »
Hopefully this is not too convoluted!

I am trying to find out if a man who volunteered in 1915 & who was rejected on medical grounds (i.e. he failed to pass the medical examination) would, at the point of rejection, have been issued with some form of paperwork confirming this.

What I have in mind is a scenario whereby this man, whose physical impairment was not visibly obvious, would possibly have been subsequently challenged by either official or non-official persons as to why he was not in uniform.

When so challenged, would he have been able to produce some formal documentation to explain his situation?


World War One / Medical examination when joining The Remounts
« on: Monday 11 June 18 17:34 BST (UK)  »

I am aware that it was standard practice that every new recruit had to undergo a medical examination to ensure that he was fit to serve.

However, I am wondering if the need for such an examination did not apply in the case of men joining The Army Remount Service of the RASC.

I mention this because in a "call to arms" recruitment notice, that formed part of a national newspaper advertising campaign in 1915, the RASC specifically stated that "ordinary standards of height and chest measurement may be waived provided men are organically sound" and also that the eyesight test could be taken whilst wearing glasses.

My thinking is that the usual medical examination of such recruits could well have been counterproductive, if it inadvertently led to the rejection of a disproportionate number of men that the Remount Service so desperately needed.

Perhaps instead just a visual physical check might have been conducted (e.g. all limbs present & correct etc.).

My interest in this topic is prompted by the discovery that an ancestor was accepted into The Remounts even though (as his medical discharge papers confirm) he would surely have been rejected had he undergone a full medical examination at the point of recruitment.

Does anyone have an ancestor who joined The Remounts around this time and who may have been "organically sound" but not otherwise fit enough for the rigours of the battlefield?


World War One / Military roles for volunteers
« on: Monday 11 June 18 16:46 BST (UK)  »

I am currently looking into the service profiles of 4 great-uncles - each of whom enlisted voluntarily in 1915.

In the 1911 census, three of them (all brothers) were employed by the GWR, one as a Fireman & the other two as Platelayers - occupations that they all returned to after the war.

The fourth man (unrelated to the brothers) in the 1911 census was a Waggoner on a farm and in the 1939 Register was a Horseman on a farm.

When these men enlisted, the Fireman joined the Royal Navy as a Stoker (his ship HMS Yarmouth was involved in the Battle of Jutland); the Platelayers became Sappers with the 275th Railway Construction Company of the Royal Engineers; the Waggoner/Horseman joined the Horse Transport Company of the RASC as a Driver.

As each man was allocated a military role that directly mirrored his civilian occupation, did this happen either - because it was a pragmatic decision on the part of the Navy & Army - as he was already fully proficient and would probably need little (if any) training
or - because, as a volunteer, he was allowed to express a preference for his military role?


World War One / 2nd King's Shropshire Light Infantry in the 1911 overseas census
« on: Tuesday 20 March 18 21:41 GMT (UK)  »
I am seeking guidance on how to find the 2nd King's Shropshire Light Infantry in the 1911 overseas census.

It is my understanding that the 2nds were in India at the time but, to date, I have not been able to find them.

Any help will be gratefully received.


Lancashire / United Co-operative Laundries Association (UCLA)
« on: Sunday 12 March 17 13:23 GMT (UK)  »

I am currently pursuing a line of (family history) research which relates to the United Co-operative Laundries Association.

My purpose in writing is to ask if anyone has any knowledge of any archived material or associated resources concerning the UCLA.

As the UCLA grew beyond its original ownership by the Failsworth Industrial Co-operative Society, and in December 1911 became an independent federal (co-op) society jointly owned by 10 retail (co-op) societies, there are no direct records (after 1911) within the Failsworth society's archives that are held in the National Co-op archives in Manchester.

All that is held is a booklet, entitled "from clean to gleam", which was produced in 1962 to celebrate the Jubilee of the UCLA. At that time it was jointly owned by no less than 73 retail societies!

Any guidance will be very much appreciated.


Lancashire / Baxenden school admission records for 1894/1895
« on: Monday 12 September 16 21:46 BST (UK)  »
As I am a newcomer to researching in Lancashire, I am hoping that someone will be able to help me with regard to the following family mystery.

The (Shrewsbury) Trinity Girls school register [in FindMyPast] shows that my grandmother, Frances (Fanny) Bliss (born 3 January 1887), left the school on 30 November 1894 - but without also noting her onward (educational) destination.

Then a subsequent register shows that she was readmitted to the same school on 2 September 1895 - when "The last school attended before entering this school" is noted simply as: Baxenden.

When I first found this (second) entry a few years ago I thought that the reference to Baxenden related to a local, Shropshire, school but an exhaustive search of the whole register did not reveal any other mention of Baxenden. This then suggested to me that my grandmother had temporarily gone to school in Baxenden but, as this had no direct bearing at the time in respect of my research into her adult life, I left it at that.

However, subsequent recent developments have now created a fresh perspective with regard to a possible Baxenden connection and I am now seeking assistance to establish whether or not any Baxenden school admission records embracing the years 1894 & 1895 have survived. My particular interest in this context is to possibly glean the name(s) of her guardian(s) - as I know that her mother remained in Shrewsbury during this period.


Carmarthenshire / William THOMAS - living in Ffynonddrain in 1911
« on: Sunday 19 June 16 23:13 BST (UK)  »
Please can anyone help with regard to the following?

I am hoping that someone may have previously researched William THOMAS, who is listed as a mourner at my great-grandmother's funeral in Carmarthen in March 1909.

In the LLGC extract of the report of her funeral he is mentioned as a cousin.

From this reference I have connected to a William THOMAS in the 1911 census who is living in Ffynonddrain and I believe that this is the same person - because his place of birth is recorded as Llanegwad and the birthplace of my great-grandmother, Mary DAVIES (nee Davies), was also recorded as Llanegwad in the 1881/1891/1901 censuses.

My interest in William is to hopefully identify his ancestry and to thus thereby identify which of the (4?) Llanegwad Mary DAVIES's (born about 1848/49) is my great-grandmother.


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