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The Common Room / Bastardy prone sub community - Wiltshire
« on: Monday 06 July 20 06:37 BST (UK)  »
In a recent episode of "Who Do You Think You Are", Oz version, the historian (in Wiltshire) explained the ancestor giving birth to an illegitimate child as being part of a "bastardy prone sub community" of the time  - 1765.  She then went on to explain that in this part of Wiltshire giving birth before marriage was a way of confirming the fertility and suitability of the woman for marriage, particularly in the economic sense.  To put it more crudely in my words "to try before you buy".

I have Googled the term: "bastardy prone sub community" and see that the term was coined much later by Laslett in the study of illegitimacy.

I would like to know, if anyone has come across this in practice in their research.

(The ancestor in question went on to have 4 illegitimate children and was jailed for 12 months on the birth of the 4th)  Thanks Gazania

Scotland / Will/confirmation for Levi Monk who died 1928
« on: Tuesday 26 November 19 05:43 GMT (UK)  »
I would like some help in obtaining the probate/will/confirmation for Levi Monk who died in Hawick in 1928.  His ?second wife died only a few weeks before he did.  He did not have any children as far as I know.  He was a Manager of Gas works.  During his lifetime he assisted his Australian born niece obtain an education in the UK. Thank you

Australia / Queensland Electoral Roll lookup for address, please
« on: Sunday 23 June 19 07:25 BST (UK)  »
Could I have a  lookup on the Electoral roll for Guy Henry Betts who was living in Queensland at Ipswich in the Moreton electorate from about 1908 to 1925.  I would like his address please in Ipswich.  Thank you, Gazania.

The Common Room / Such is fame
« on: Monday 03 December 18 22:31 GMT (UK)  »
It is 180 years ago, this week, that my convict ancestor was a patient in the convict hospital at Moreton Bay. The surviving hospital records reveal the usual intimate details as well as the reason he was admitted.  He had been hit on the head by a beam. I assume it was while he was working as a sawyer. Sadly subsequent records show he then suffered from epilepsy.

The Supreme Court now stands on the original hospital site in Brisbane.

Links to the past are there, somewhere - and a lot of luck.


I have just discovered that that there is a probate for Annie lodged in the State of Victoria in Australia.
The notice of probate and letters of Administration gives the information she died on the 30 April 1927, late of Lowell, Co Middlesex, Massachusetts.  From this record, I have surmised her maiden name is Wall.  She has likely inherited some property in the State of Victoria ( hence the Probate in Victoria) from a relative called Patrick Joseph Wall who was born in Ireland but migrated to Australia, but died in Victoria unmarried in 1923.

Could some kind soul please direct me to any records in the USA - death certificate, obituary, census etc would be so helpful.  Thank you. Gazania

Dumfriesshire / Paternity order: Armstrong v Jardine: making of payments: 1851
« on: Monday 06 August 18 01:48 BST (UK)  »
The Paternity order is dated 1851 in the parish of Canonbie and outlines the regular payments to be made until the illegitimate child reaches 7 years of age.

My question is how would the payments be made.  Would the father make the payments to the parish and then the mother have to front up to the parish officials?

In other words, would the father have any further contact with the mother in order to hand over the money?  Thank you, Gazania

The Common Room / Ancestry... Public tree contact
« on: Thursday 21 June 18 07:27 BST (UK)  »
I am thinking of taking out a month's subs to Anc. as I found a public tree of interest to me and I am wondering if it is worth making contact.

The Tree shows very little knowledge of my family which after 25 years of searching, I have just managed to crack.  So I can certainly pass on a lot to the tree owner.  My question is does the tree owner have to be a current subscriber to respond to my contact ? ( that is of course if they able or willing to do so.)  I am just asking whether it is worth while.  (I do not have a tree on AnC)

Thanks Gazania

Sussex Lookup Requests / prison records - 1882
« on: Saturday 26 May 18 07:56 BST (UK)  »
I found a news item in the Hastings and St Leonards Observer dated Sat 12 Aug 1882 which indicated that at the Hastings Borough Bench on the previous Thurs (ie   10 Aug 1882) that James LANE was sentenced to 2 months hard labour for common assault.

I am asking if there are any prison records available (or any other records) which would give the age/ description of the prisoner.  I am interested to see if this James Lane is a relative.

I have searched the Catalogue for the East Sussex Archives with no success.

Thank you, Gazania

Armed Forces / Invalided out of Navy - "Penelope"
« on: Wednesday 25 April 18 07:25 BST (UK)  »
My request may sound a bit picky.....

My relative had signed up for 10 years with the Royal Navy. Some dates:

11-13 Jul 1882: on board the "Penelope" at the battle of Alexandria (confirms family story)
Jul 1882:    Not on Newspaper casualty lists of wounded/killed on the "Penelope"
6 Oct 1882:   Naval record shows invalided out of Navy (confirms family story)
7 Nov 1882:  "Penelope" returns to Home Port in UK

My question is are there any records which tell me whether he was discharged while on the "Penelope" and remained on board until the ship docked in Nov.  Or could he have been taken off the ship and brought home earlier?  What was the usual practice?

On a 1890 record, his father said he had suffered sunstroke in the past.

Thanks, Gazania

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